Check out Ebay seller "lotsofclassicbits"

Modern rubber-covered tinned motorcycle wiring......a terrific £1.75 per metre......I bought some and it really is good......period wire but with a modern rubber outer that will not crack-up or deteriorate.......

Wartime bike wiring was the same as this...........rubber-coated cable, not braided cloth...............get it while you can......

Done my bike with it, ace stuff just looks like the original thick rubber coated wire. Use colour cable collets with it to make it look correct.
Tim Walker

email (option): t.j.walker@btinternet.com

Tim, where did you get the coloured rings from ? Do they look like rubber ?

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I went through 4 pages of his stuff and didn't find it?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Classic-Motorcycle-Rubber-Insulated-Wire-Cable-Rudge-AJS-Norton-/200918725203?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item2ec7b07253

Looks like he sold out.I bought a few meters to do my M20.
Dave

email (option): jeepfinger@blueyonder.co.uk

Still listed as a current item for sale on Ebay.....ends Tuesday 25th......

If you can't find the item number search on "rubber covered wiring" within "Motorcycle Part and Accessories".......

I got my slip-on coloured coding sleeves a few years ago now from "Electrical Engineering Services".......bought enough colours to last me a while......but it is the proper-looking wiring cable that has always been difficult to acquire...

Hello all
How many metres do you need to fully wire a WM20
Thanks Darren

email (option): Darrenacartwright@yahoo.com.au

How many 'strands' does it have?...Wire for MC applications had a high number of strands to improve flexibility..Lucas wire was either 24 or 36 I believe...

I'd like to know of a current source for those identification sleeves as well...Ian

email (option): ian@wright52.plus.com

Have just been looking at the coloured sleeves, but looks like coloured heat shrink sleeves, nothing else fancy, no numbers or anything, will post some pictures later this afternoon, car needs to be MOT'd!

Cheers,

Lex

email (option): welbike@sameagain.net

Ian Wright

How many 'strands' does it have?...Wire for MC applications had a high number of strands to improve flexibility..Lucas wire was either 24 or 36 I believe...

I'd like to know of a current source for those identification sleeves as well...Ian

email (option): t.j.walker@btinternet.com

Ian,
Here's the description,

Vintage Motorcycle Black Rubber Insulated Wire / Cable

The Cables for Classics rubber insulated cable has been formulated using modern vulcanising techniques and materials, the cable looks and feel just like the rubber cable originally fitted to pre PVC wire 1950's and earlier machines.

The use of modern materials and manufacturing processes make the cable resistant to petrol, oil, heat and the effect of sunlight so it will not crack or perish during use like the original natural rubber wiring did.

Overall diameter of Cable 4mm. Wire size 55 strands of 0.15mm tinned copper wire, Nominal current rating 12A.

Note price is per metre length just purchase the number of metres that you require, maximum continuous single length 25m.

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Rik, I'll trade your Norton for any Honda! (of the 70-80's)

Here's the colours;





Don't know without checking if other colours were used?

Cheers,

Lex

email (option): welbike@sameagain.net

Hi
Just to let you all know, I did go out of stock momentarily but have now had a new batch made here is the link; http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Classic-Motorcycle-Rubber-Insulated-Wire-Cable-Rudge-AJS-Norton-/201055532041?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item2ecfd7f409

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It's damn good stuff Duncan, and as you say just like the original........thanks for your efforts in making this product available at last.......

The average WD bike (eg - M20, etc) needs on average about 5 meters of wire, possibly slightly more if you are adding dip-switch and stop-light switch............most of the parts lists however only specify the quantity of wire "as required"...........

I'm interested in re-wiring my bike with this wire. One question I have: for example, the large number of wires coming from the headlight shell, are they bundled in some sort of tape to form a wiring harness or are they just all individual wires somehow secured to the frame at various points?

The wires coming out from the headlamp panel were usually encased within a thin-walled length of black-rubber sleeving........this ran to roughly the point beneath the saddle at the rear of the fuel tank and secured to the frame top-tube with sprung-steel clips (although some very late machines used the "strip, aluminium, pliable" as an alternative)............

Thin-walled rubber tubing may be a tad difficult to get nowadays but maybe try modern black PVC non-shrink tubing "dulled-down" with a "Brillo" or "Scotch-Pad" to resemble rubber..............?

The 'thinnest' bicycle inner tube that you can find works well but you'll need to turn it inside out to hide the mounld lines and that's a bugger of a job.

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Thanks guys, I've got a bunch of the inner tubes and will give that a try!

I got the wire coming, got the various heat shrink colored tubing, and one more question, does the colored tubing go only on each end of the wire or somewhere along the way?

As far as I know only a little from the ends, on my N.O.S. harness there is also a brass tab on the taillamp wire with a number, prolly identifying the harness.

Have bought some heatshrink stuff too, but was too lazy to cut it off square!

But it does look good! also black was used!! see the Original wiring diagrams for what colour goes where.



I might venture into making some original wiring harnasses for Nortons.

Cheers,

Lex

email (option): welbike@sameagain.net

Thanks Lex, I did get the black heat shrink when I noticed on the wiring schematic that the wiring diagram showed black with different colors for the wire identification. The non square cut ends may actually look more original!

Just arrived and as all have said its good,looks like there will be a wiring harness for an ariel on Ebay next week, Andrew.h.

email (option): warbikes@gmail.com

Re- turning the inner tube inside out. Try this- once you cut the tube to length, (ADD A COUPLE INCHES EXTRA) find a piece of cord about a foot longer. Pass it through the tube, leaving a few inches extra. Hole punch the end of the tube, then tie off the cord to the end of the tube. Rub some talc or starch on the outside as a lubricant, Start the end inside itself, then pull it through via the cord. A bit awkward until you get it started, but once you get started it usually pulls through quite easily. Turns that sucker inside-out lickety split!

Great idea, I will do it that way. The heat shrink arrived today, now just waiting on the wire from England.

I've been buying the black braided cable for years from "Electrical Engineering Services" I always buy a bunch of his little coloured cable ID rubbers.
info@classic wiring.co.uk

Ron

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You'll have to rewire that bike now in rubber cable

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Absolutely. Cloth-covered is for softies. A bit like BD with a lined collar !

Ron, any chance of a picture of the rubber sleeves ? I think that I need some !

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Ron, please, no more misinformation! you're a bit behind the facts now

Cheers,

Lex

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I'm not misinforming anyone Lex. I'm merely saying that I buy rubber ID tags from the guy that I have been buying cable from. Take it or leave it. Ron

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Got my wiring today, great stuff! The 1/4" heat shrink tubing I got works great for the color sleeves. Now all I have to do is figure when I want to take the bike off the road for re-wiring, it was 80 degrees and sunny this weekend!

Mark, you don't live in the UK do you, !! I think it got up 14c on sunday Andrew.h.

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Nope, sunny north Florida. We were supposed to get rain all weekend but the weatherman did the job he normally does and it turned out nice and sunny for most of the weekend.

['but the weatherman did the job he normally does and it turned out nice and sunny for most of the weekend']...

I think he sent it my way...We had so much rain over Sunday/Monday the river near me looked like it was going to burst its banks...for only the second time in the last 35 years!... ...Ian

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