Andrew, yes Metal M's were used on G3L's..... At least on some and at least till 1942. Ron
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Correct Peter. I have that same parts list for C12632/3. and the illustration shows the two holes for the badge screws. My own G3L is from an earlier contract in 1941 and I have never noticed evidence of the holes. Unless of course they have been filled in or a later tank fitted
Ron
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What about WO amendment B/78942 paragraph 17 sub section 23/A on the 16 July 1943?
Anyway Bob and Marcia make them, so it must be true
Ron
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Anyway Bob and Marcia make them, so it must be true
Ron
Ron, you must have a whole book with amendments, this is the second one you give me, can't wait till it gets published!!!
Bob and Marcia are however producing the tanktop Matchless transfer, used on both G3 and G3L's, should be ready before the end of the year.
Also the proper G3L front fork transfer is now being made, different again from what John T had made, this is the first pattern transfer.
Anyone who can send me a wartime picture of a G3L with winged "M" transfers on the tank, I will buy a beer, next time I see him!
There is however an exeption, have a couple of pictures, with stencilled white winged "M"s on the tank, so that would justify the use of a transfer I guess.
Cheers,
Lex
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Is this a stencil, Lex or is it simply that the transfers now available are a little too art-deco and should have a solid form ?
From S.2604, Scheduled for delivery at 1600 per month commencing November 1943
Too difficult to see Rik, the M transfers are just not in any parts lists, and the other transfers, including the tanktop are!
Ron, all G3 and G3L's had them, panel tank included, see pictures:
Cheers,
Lex
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Well done Rik. Just like mine! Lex owes you a beer. Or is that actually a wartime picture? Did they paint white wheel nuts on a Bedford MW water bowser during the war? And well done on those other transfers Lex. Look forward to getting them. Nothing like dressing up and old drab green bike
Ron
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Lex, Do you have a part number for the Norton tank logo ? I don't think that the Norton books list any transfers (and would be surprised if the MoS were prepared to pay for manufacturer's advertising to be replaced).
It doesn't mean of course that they weren't fitted in the factory, as we know from surviving tanks that they were.
Ron, I don't know if it's a wartime image. Certainly late if it is with tailored BD. However, it has the blackout mask still fitted (with flap raised ?) which makes me think that it can't be long after. Probably the summer of 1945 rather than 1944..
This picture is post-war as it shows a G3L in the hands of the Italian police in occupied Italy. However, the fittings and census number all look original and it doesn't appear to be a bike that's been rebuilt.
I'm pretty sure that it's a transfer and not a stencil and would be surprised if they rushed boxes of 'Winged M' transfers to Italy in 1945...or would they have made them locally and why ?
Machine is also from S.2604
Lex, were these AMC tank top transfers just put on their WD products or civilian bikes too? and from what year and until when? Who's making the replicas and when will they be available? What a lot of questions! 
Bloody hell Rik. I think that's two beers from Lex
Ken. I wouldn't dispute irregularities in parts lists, but the lists were adjusted for each contract so must have been fairly accurate, otherwise what was the point of printing them. I don't think it's prudent to make rash statements like "this or that did or didn't happen". In my 30 years in this hobby I have found that nothing is ever cast in stone and part of the hobby is unravelling some of the truth. Ron
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you are right Ron, on the whole we seem to agree? but I doubt if minutia such as screw holes in tanks were allowed for.
On christains archives http://archives.jampot.dk/ you can find all parts lists, have look through those to spot the anomolies.
Before I started off loading much of my junk I had late 40's parts lists
with addenda slips in to the effect of use this list for such and such year.
you are right about not being cast in stone, but for instance AMC were notorious for airbrushing publicity pic to the extent the photo became paintings, look carefully at catalogue pics and try to spot things like cable runs.
I can also claim working at the Matchless factory at the end and some of the tales I heard from the older hands,gave me a whole new outlook on past events.
In wartime and in austerity 40's small things didnt matter.
I'm really cheesed off now 
as I shall have to go through a pile of mouse gnawed, mouldy, spider webby back numbers of the wartime mags to find something to back me up.
And if I do that before the poor sod gets his g3 engine he'll be even more unhappy with me
That's strange....I responded earlier to a post by Fred and they've both disappeared ?
Ken, if yer " 'avin' a rummage", would there be any chance of looking out the pictures of your Dad on the bikes ? Both Formation ('Divisional') and Arm of Service serials were displayed on mudguards at various times but there was an Army Council Instruction during 1941 which stated that Formation Signs should no longer be displayed on motorcycles which is odd as it must have been a Traffic Control nightmare.
It's clear that parts books were printed prior to commencement of the contracts and as changes were introduced, the books lagged behind. However, if an item such as the metal badges were left out then it's fair to assume that they were discontinued.
One of the things that we're doing by going back to primary sources is deconstructing the post-war details that have often been accepted as 'original' by the WD bike scene.
My personal feeling is that a WD bike should be 'in period' to the best of our abilities...but the best transfers in the world are more than negated by pre-insulated coloured wiring connectors...
AMC weren't the only 'improvers' of catalogue photos and in fact most printed images were retouched to add shadow, definition and shine to the chrome (plus as Ken says, hide the untidy cable runs !)
Ken, some of the wording of your last post is ringing some bells. Have we nearly met once over some wooden ammo box's?
I often find myself talking to guys on some forums whom I have know for some time, but am not aware of it at first because they use pseudonyms 
Ron
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yes Ron off that other forum.
you were concerned about my being concealed in bushiness.
I also bought a bent tail end silencer off you at Netley last year.
Thanks for that Steve. I hate it when Lex tells me my bike is wrong
I have that information on the two types of tanks in my maintenance manual. But never seen the 6150 spares list to which they refer. Also I'd like to see a description of how the filter hose connects to the carb. I gather you have to space the oil tank off....But it's all very tight for room. Ron
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Hi All,
Is someone also making the separated wins and M ?
If so can you leth me know??
regards,
Bram
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