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Re: The cinema at the back of the school

Yes i have info on buddy he is my dads uncle my dad is Peter Forbes. 07776391930. Regards nathan peters son

Re: The cinema at the back of the school

David Manley asks if anyone remembers the theatre near the old bus ststion. Well I was a pretty regular attender. ny father was a policeman and he used to wangle tickets for Saturday night in the circle. It was the Hippodrome then in the 40's . We saw stars topping the bill, Albert Modley. Gracie Fields. Norman Evans. Sandy Powell, Artur Askey . Western Brothers . Harry korris and Enoch. Will Fyfe etc. Wish i'd kept the programmes.
By the way does anyone remember how the inkwells used to bounce off the wooden blocks which paved Lord Street. I know not many will even remember inkwells! However dropped from the 4th floor they created havoc as boys were coming in off that street and bouncing inkwells fell in withno warning and no trace of the deliverer.

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) mikemarynichols@hotmail.com

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I recall being taken to the Pantomime at the Hippodrome, probably mid 50's when I was a small boy.
My guess is that it closed around 1960 or so. Subsequently Keighley 'Amateurs' has put on a pantomime. 'Goody Two Shoes' starts in a couple of weeks at the Victoria Hall.

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) brianmoate@hotmail.com

Current location (optional) www.whitesea.co.uk

Re: The cinema at the back of the school

You brought a few names out of the memory bank there Mike.They were good days in retrospect.Maybe the post war intake were a bit better behaved---I don't remember anyone throwing inkwells out of the window-----but it sounds like fun.Cheers.

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) candbwalsh@xtra.co.nz

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In response to Thomas Punt's posting the Ritz has of course been preserved as a Gala Bingo Hall,and judging from the comments of my mother(who is a regular attender!) the original heating system is still in use.I'll ask her to enquire about the Organ.
One further point does anyone remember Keighley's own Pin Up/Actress Sandra Dorne who worked at the Ritz as an usherette.

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I wish I could have seen the turns that Mike refers to. I do recall visits to the Hippodrome to see the pantos. I remember seeing Norman Evans do his "over the garden wall" soliloquy and playing the trumpet with a glove puppet punching the valves. I think that's where Harry Corbett got his idea for Sooty.I also recall a show which included a big xylophonist who part-way through a popular song would bellow to the audience "SING". (Teddy .......)Anybody remember his name? My grandma used to offer digs for actors/performers at the (wasn't it called The Queen's Theatre?)One or two made it as lesser characters in TV and film. I remember queueing and being regaled to a "feast of music" by Freddie Gramophone. (Did it always rain on Keighley's queues?)He only had one record and rarely a lucifer to light his fag. One night he came down the queue asking for a match - and got nowhere. He turned in disgust to the queue and called out "'A'n't onyonyer gorronyonyer?"
As for bouncing inkwells in Lord Street,there was a later version. If you spent the afternoon in a Junior Corridor classroom overlooking Lord Street (eg Beaky Birch's form room 33(?))and it rained you always made sure that the centre-swivelled windows were open and caught as much rain as possible. Then, when the lads who were dashing for buses at 1550 hours came hareing towards Cav St, strategically closing the windows gave them a sharp reminder not to be first into the showers when they next had Gym.

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) terrymarston@hotmail.com

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Hi Brian-----I do remember Sandra Dorne,Keighley's own blonde bomb---As I recall,she lived at Ingrow,and she starred in a film"A girl,a boy and a bike" (I think it's that order-might have been boy first)which was filmed in the area and include a scene where she(in short shorts)rides a bike down Halifax Road.I think everyone in Keighley must have seen that about '50/'51.Cheers.

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) candbwalsh@xtra.co.nz

Re: The cinema at the back of the school

Who could fail to remember Sandra Dorne [was that her real name?]
As for inkwells and windows - Bill is right. I recall none of the postwar generation using that trick. However I do recall someone [possibly Dave Haigh - I hope I'm not slandering him] throwing a broken chair out of one such window.
It landed on a car below - and landed the thrower in an interesting predicament.

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) sjspye@hotmail.com

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Sandra Dorne gets a mention on the web and seems to have been struttin' her stuff on the big screen at least until 1987: http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hc&id=1800060766&cf=gen&intl=us
Doesn't look like she featured in the bike film though...: http://movies.go.com/filmography/credits?movie_id=21179&id=472439
As far as the DT Haigh libel is concerned, I'll let him know he got a mention, and that might prompt him to confirm or deny....???

Re: The cinema at the back of the school

Allan - are you still in contact with Dave Haigh?
I lost touch with him in 1979. Please e-mail me contact details.

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) sjspye@hotmail.com

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Allen Jones alerted me to the forum and yes Shaun it was me who dropped the bits of a chair out of the 4S1 form room window into Lord St. I wanted to get rid of the evidence of having broken the chair but unfortuantely Harry Blinks - deputy head at the time - was underneath and brought the bits back in to find out who had dropped them. The punishment was odd in that I was taken off lessons and spent the afternoon repairing the chair in Bill Midge's workshop which had more going for it than the timetabled events.

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) DTHaigh@aol.com

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Either Terry Marston has been lying about his age all these years or he had indulgent parents who exposed him at a very early age to cultural giants such as xylophonist Teddy Brown, who evidently died when Terry was five - 30 April 1946. Brown weighed 24 stone and snuffed it after declaring he wasn't feeling too good while thumping the keys at the Wolverhampton Hippodrome. His real name was Abraham Himmelbrand, and he lived at Xylophone House, Littlehampton. Whether or not he had a little hampton is not revealed in his obituary in the Wolverhampton Star, but when you live in Littlehampton and die in Wolverhampton it's obvious your hampton is a primary cause of demise.

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) pedwards@nex.net.au

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Probably assassinated by Lionel Hampton.
Anyhow - good to see Dave Haigh posting on the site, and also good to see his confirmation that my memory isn't completely shot yet.
Dave, can you confirm my memory that, in a separate incident, you nutted someone in the school yard. If so, who, why and what was the outcome?

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Paul Edwards yet again shatters my illusions -= I was hoping that the Teddy I saw was Teddy Wilson subsequently to move over to piano like a goodman to let Lionel (Hampton of course)take over with the hammers. Incidentally, ever heard a marimba duet. Fantastic!

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) terrymarston@hotmail.com

Re: The cinema at the back of the school

If this topic 'the cinema at the back of the school' smashes through an incredible 1,000 viewings mark do I receive the 'Chris Firth Award' of a free trip to Singapore.

Re: The cinema at the back of the school

I notice some postings have also mentioned the Keighley Hippodrome and all the names that appeared there. I too remember Albert Modley and later Norman Evans, Gracie Fields, earlier still Florrie Ford,Harry Lauder, Wheeler and Wilson and many others. This (around 1936-39 as I remember it) was the heyday of 'variety'. I was taken there frequently by my father who I am sure enjoyed the blue jokes which he imagined I wouldn't take in but I did and enjoyed them enormously. Afterwards we would eat delicious hot roasted potatoes sold from a kind of steam-engine contraption. I also remmber the characters such as 'Freddie Gramophone'.

Does anyone know whether anyone wrote a history of the 'Hippodrome' or whether it gets much mention in any general histories of variety theatre? An even greater treat of course was to be taken to the Alhambra in Bradford still in existence I believe and I last visited it on a business trip c.1982.

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) tomtpunt@aol.com

Re: The cinema at the back of the school

I have vague recollextions of seeing Wilson, Kepple and Betty as a youngster. Could that have been in Keighley?

Re: The cinema at the back of the school

.... and Joseph Locke too?

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Photos of former Keighley cinemas on the way - 3 so far.

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 58-65

Current location (optional) Leeds

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Does anyone remember when we all were taken across the road to see a screening of "Gisselle(?)" performed by the Bolshoi Ballet I think

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 58-61

Current location (optional) Blue Mountains, NSW, Australia

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KBGS lads expected to sit through the Bolshoi Ballet. Are you serious?

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Like John Felvus, I have distinct recollection of a (proposed at least) visit to watch the Bolshoi Ballet. With which teacher I couldn't say, as I'm quite certain that I never went.
If indeed such a "treat" did take place, then I've forgotten how I got out of it, although the "Queensbury" card was always an invaluable trump in such instances!

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 58 -65

Re: Re: The cinema at the back of the school

Although not the Bolshoi Ballet, we were certainly taken to the Ritz to watch Don Giovani, so a screening of a ballet does sound feasible.

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 59 - 66

Current location (optional) Embsay

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One memory I have of the Ritz is from primary school. Every Saturday morning we went along to the ABC (probably Associated British Cinemas) Minors, we used to wear these ABC Minors badges that glowed in the dark, in retrospect, there was probably so much radiation leeching from them that it lowered the sperm count.

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 58-61

Current location (optional) Blue Mountains, NSW, Australia

Re: Re: The cinema at the back of the school

Yes, John, but can you remember the songs you used to sing to the words on the screen assisted by the bouncing ball ? {or was that the Alhambra panto with either Wilfred Pickles or Norman (over the garden wall) Evans leading the singing?} Do you remember the road safety song to the tune of The Lambeth Walk. And the "ABC Minors' song". I think Chris should be offering prizes for all correct answers.

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 52-60

Re: Re: The cinema at the back of the school

OK, here goes,
"We're the boys and girls well known as,
The Minors of the ABC.........."
So much for memory

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 58-61

Current location (optional) Blue Mountains, NSW, Australia

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You can not believe how interesting it has been reading these memories.
The Ritz cinema was a beutiful example of Art Deco architecture and very very upmarket. There is a architectural style known as 'early ABC cinema' not sure if it is a recognised tag or just a fun one. My memories include Errol Flynn in Robin Hood, what an entrance when he kicks those enormous doors open and throws the dead deer on the king's table. They don't make ' em like that anymore. and that enormous queue to see Mrs Minniver. Right down Alice Street and back up Lawkholme Lane!!!!
I used to come out of school and wait by the bottom exit until someone came out put my foot in the door and then sneak down the steps and inch the fire door open and then when there was a quiet moment I would go inside to the toilet which was right next to the exit, wait a couple of minutes and then come out and sit down and watch the picture. I've seen me get home at 6 or 7 o'clock in the evening. The tales I had to fabricate to explain that!!!!

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Well done, Arthur. Was this "trick" known only to Lawkholmelaners? Was a similar practised at the Cav, the Cosy - or even at the Oxford and Bronte? The "flicks" definitely were superior to the wonders of telly, internet and MP3. You had to get off your a*s* to enjoy.

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 52-60

Re: Re: The cinema at the back of the school

Anyone remember more of the 'ABC Minors' Saturday song?

...and every Saturday all line-up
to watch the films we like and sing-along with glee ...

What baout the 'ABC' lapel badges - the standard one and a lumious one?

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 59 - 66

Current location (optional) Embsay

Re: Re: The cinema at the back of the school

My recollection of the words is as follows.........

We are the boys and girls well-known as
Minors of the ABC.
And every Saturday all line-up
To see the films we like
And shout aloud with glee.
We like to laugh and have a sing-song.
Just a happy crowd are we -e.
We're all pals together.
We're Minors of the ABC.

Sung to the tune of the march, "Blaze Away", often played for the military two-step.

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 52-60

Re: Re: The cinema at the back of the school

You'll be having us singing the Ovaltineys next!

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The road safety song went thus - to the tune of The Lambeth Walk.....

Any time you're down our way
Any ev'ning any day
You'll find us all
Doin' the safety walk...

Halt at the curb
Look right there, left there, right there
When we see that all is clear
We have nothing then to fear
You'll find us all,
Doin' the safety walk

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 52-60

Current location (optional) Lincoln

Re: Re: The cinema at the back of the school

'glee' - why don't we have words like that any more??

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With my proven lousy memory, I hesitate to post but I agree Terry with the possible amendments: ???

And shout ABOUT with glee. [or I may have been deaf]
and
We like to laugh and have OUR sing-song. [Pronounced ar]

Let's have a bit of reight. I confirm the extended we-e.

A slick bit of advertising for ABC even 55 years ago.

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 53-58

Re: Re: The cinema at the back of the school

Thanks, Peter. Now a further challenge....
What about the words ABC Minors sang for the road safety song to the tune of "The Lambeth Walk"? - OI!

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 52-60

Current location (optional) Lincoln

Re: Re: The cinema at the back of the school

Sorry Terry, no recollection whatsoever? Surprising, as it wasn't a place one could easily drop off. Unless larking on the balcony counted.

Our gang sat upstairs where we had our own seats enforced by numbers. The cliff hangers of the serials were a fraud. What a liberty. Entrance a tanner?

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 53-58

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PS Vague memories now stirring; I obviously took little notice. That's maybe why I nearly got knocked down, failing to look both ways when crossing a one way street. Was that covered?

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 53-58

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Re the Ritz cinema. I would lurk by the side fire exit on Alice Street until someone left and then duck in and hold the door ajar then quietly down the steps and inch the swing door open and peep through. By patience and slow cunning I would make the Gent's toilet door which was immediately adjacent to the fire door and then after an interval exit and take my seat. I often got home from school at 7-oopm after watching a whole movie through. It was the excitement of achieving the thing that gave me the greatest pleasure, the movie was a sort of reward.
The Fire Exit on the opposite side was, I believe the site for the Yorkshire Ripper's first attack, Anna Rogulsky.
The Regent was an appalling cinema if you got in late and the place was full you had to go right down to the front and over to one side and if you watched the movie you were so disadvantaged by your position that you got a severe crick in the neck.

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You got more than a crick in the neck at the Cosy Corner Arthur.I only went once . The cheapest seats were648R 6 pence and a Jam Jar on the front seats which were just planks . From memory it had a gallery that ran down each side and only a seat width . Anybody tell me more . by the way I didn't sit in the 6 pennies . There always seemed to be Tom Mix and other cowboy films showing . A real dump .

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 43-46

Current location (optional) Tasmania

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Johnny MacBrown, Gene Autry, Hopalong Cassidy etc were part of the Cosy and Cavendish repertoire but I remember meeting the Mummy there and Dracula and then having to dare the journey home through a wartime 'smog'.
There were bugs in the Cosy and a lady used to walk up and down the aisle pumping perfumed water from a spray.When the film broke everyone used to stamp there feet and cheer on resumption of service.
We used to pay to go into the planks and crawl back into the plush when the film got going.Film going was an adventure in those days.
We used the surplus to buy chips at Midgley's on the way home.Very posh chippy was Midgley's.
Oh Lord, I miss those days so much.

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And did you run home - over Station or Lawkholme Bridge (we must have lived wrong side of the tracks!) - in a kind of hoppity skip style - clutching the reins in your left and slapping your withers with your right and shooting down any shoppers who got in your way?

I bet you did !!

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 1952-60

Current location (optional) Nirvana

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Reading all the snippits about those days is no good . I feel like booking a flight back to the reunion .

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 43-46

Current location (optional) Tasmania

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Hi Terry, the tune I remember was BLAZE AWAY .
Words:-

"WE ARE THE BOYS AND GIRLS WELL KNOWN AS
MINORS OF THE ABC,
AND EVERY SATURDAY WE LINE-UP
TO SEE THE FILMS WE LIKE AND SHOUT ALOUD WITH GLEE.
WE LIKE TO LAUGH AND HAVE OUR SINGSONG,
SUCH A HAPPY CROWD ARE WE,
WE'RE ALL PALS TOGETHER,
WE'RE MINORS OF THE ABC!!

DO A JOSEF LOCKE AND GIVE IT A TRY !!

AFTER THE SHOW AND COWBOY SERIAL, IT WAS LICKETY SPLIT DOWN ALICE STREET TO THE FAMILIAR SURROUNDINGS OF LAWKHOLME !!
TERRY, WHAT DID WE ACT OUT WHEN FLASH GORDON (FLASH IS STILL ALIVE!!) BECAME THE WEEKLY SERIAL ??
DO YOU REMEMBER THE "ROCKETS" MADE FROM TOILET ROLL CORES AND SPARKLERS !!

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 1950-1955

Current location (optional) KEIGHLEY

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After much soul searching and sleepless nights, may I suggest the following as "close to" the safety song but it may provide a base for other suggestions.

Lambeth (Safety) Walk

Any evening , any day
You find yourself down Lambeth Way
You'll find us all, doing the Safety Walk. Oi !

Doing the walk is easy
Do as you darn well pleasey
Halt at the kerb look right there, left there, right there
If you find that all is clesr
Then there's nothing else to fear,
You'll find us all, doing the Safety Walk. Oi !!

***************************************
Or words to that effect
Over to you, Tel

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 1950-1955

Current location (optional) KEIGHLEY

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You were watching, Terry? Yup Pardner that wus me. Fastest two fingers in the West. I used to pull my thumb back to cock my colt.
The day the war started Cowboys and Indians died the death to be replaced by Us versus the Jerries.

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Spot on with Blaze Away, Derek. In a later existence we used to play it for the Military 2 Step. Now your Safety Walk libretto needs some smartening up - and at this present point in time I am not your man - but 'appen I will be tomorrow.
You've left me on the Flash Gordon thing.I'm so non-Stephen Hawking - who's Dr Who?

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 1952-60

Current location (optional) Nirvana

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Arthur, I think I came in after that - although I remember the POWs being moved in open trucks to their places of work.For long enough after the war we still jeered and booed council workers in lorries - who were more confused by this than Osbourne was at the Olympics - with good cause.
I remember lengthy discussions when we were sitting on the kerb in Braddy outside our house opposite the bottom 'oller with the Phillipses, Pickards and Turners - maybe the occasional Rooke but no Bug-alleyers - listing which nations were on "our" side and those on the other.I think the UN was probably in process of formation. We allus had the most. I recall too very parentally-influenced political arguments (which must have been around the time of the 1950 General Election)- none of which took place at the back of the Ritz!!!
I suppose we knew sod'all but we took it seriously.

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 1952-60

Current location (optional) Nirvana

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That bit about counting who was on our side reminds me of some evacuees, three of which stayed at my Grandmas in Bradford Street. I was in awe of one girl called Vera who told me her name was made up of Victory, England, Russia , America. She won my total respect.

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So what got you going on all of this, Arthur, given that the main thread had been ignored for fully three years? As far as I remember, I only entered the Ritz once by your method (being a very timid soul at the time) and that was with the knowing assistance of a then mate, David Hazell (whom Derek will certainly remember - didn't he have a short spell playing for KRLFC in the late fifties?). At the Ritz I was lucky when at KBGS because one of my closest friends was Tony Barker and his mother happened to be the cashier there, certainly for all of my childhood, so Tony and I often got in free, especially on the afternoons of the 'merit' holidays.

You are right in your reminiscnces about the Cosy Corner - which I seemed to frequent a lot in my Eastwood days especially - The Three Stoogies, The Bowery Boys, Old Mother Riley, Abbot and Costello and, of course, the incomparable Laurel and Hardy were all standard fare there. In my time, in between films, there was often a 'sing-along', with the words and music appearing on the screen, never quite in time to the time of the tune, but still... There was also an old guy who looked rather like something out of the Bela Lugosi films, who sometimes played the piano at the front, as well as making sure you didn't slide off the planks onto the flea-ridden plush - hadn't the place been a 'music hall' before it became a cinema?

So, will we see you next week at the reunion Mike? Dare you!

Doug

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The Hippodrome had already closed when I began my stellar scholastic career at KBGS in 1957, and was demolished around the time I was in the fourth year. I think the intention was to convert into shops and offices, which probably then got overtaken by the (typical 60's) town centre redevelopment.

I remember my cousin going to see one of the final performances - Syncopating Sandy, who I believe made a world record by playing the piano non-stop for the better part of a week. On the last day the audience was asked to keep moving round the auditorium to try and keep the guy awake. He would signal the need for a toilet break by launching into "Lady of Spain"' when stage hands would rush out with screens, and he kept playing, presumably with one hand!

Years at KBGS e.g. 1958-1964 (optional) 57 - 62

Current location (optional) Rochdale

Re: The cinema at the back of the school

dee jackson
hi i stumbled upon this website whilst i was searching the web for my deseased grandfather Buddy Forbes,who was part of a comedy/slapstick act called The Four Graham Brothers,do you have any more information about them please? im also looking for my mother as she cannot remember him she was a baby when he died ,apparently from a heart attack on stage in birmingham,thankyou for reading and any information you could give me however small would be greatly appreciated.x


Hi I can tell you more about Buddy Forbes, one of the brothers is living in the Manchester area. You can e-mail me at nathanbirks2002@yahoo.co.uk
Thank you Regards Nathan.

Current location (optional) Manchester