I found this interesting take on the mark on you tube. It does not rule out a physical mark being used and it certainly matches with O, his origin and his intents for America.

It is titled "The Mark of the Beast".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIXdFjuAJ-w&feature=related

Thanks for posting this John! Looking forward to seeing it. Also, just a reminder, when you post an article or video please remember to add this statement somewhere in your post:

FAIR USE FOR INFORMATION AND DISCUSSION PURPOSES

Thanks, TS

All of the verified earliest manuscripts we have of the New Testament do not use the Chi Xi Stigma symbols for 666. They are written in Koine Greek and the numbers are written out. All the earliest verified manuscripts are written in all capital letters.

Example Six Hundred Sixty and Six or One Hundred and Forty and Four Thousand.

I'm trying to find a pretty detailed post I did in response to this before on here but I'm having trouble.

Here is Revelation 13:18 from the oldest verified manuscript of the full New Testament (Codex Sinaiticus)



As you can see it does not contain the Chi Xi Stigma.

The word used for "mark" in Revelation 13:16 is the Greek "charagma" Strongs Number G5480 meaning a scratch or etching.

While I certainly don't recommend wearing a bismillah on your forehead or hand. It doesn't really evoke a sense of scratching or etching or piercing the skin.

Also those who follow the false religion of Islam can still follow the Truth of the Gospel if the Lord opens their eyes. Hence they are not eternally ****ed and the bismillah cannot currently be the mark.

Grace and Peace

Sorry about not putting the other stuff up on the board.

I think you have a valid point Philip. I just think that the Adversary is running a multifaceted front that involves multiple levels and angles of deception. He is using different faces with different people. I don't think we can rule out possible pieces of the jigsaw.

What follows is the REV 3:18 listing from Blue letter bible Textus receptus. Whilst it is not a picture of the manuscript the three Greek letters can be seen. This is the KJV base as far as I am aware.

13:18 Ὧδε ἡ σοφία ἐστίν ὁ ἔχων τὸν νοῦν ψηφισάτω τὸν ἀριθμὸν τοῦ θηρίου ἀριθμὸς γὰρ ἀνθρώπου ἐστίν καὶ ὁ ἀριθμὸς αὐτοῦ χξς

I am not convinced to rule it out because I know of people who have the Bismallah tattoed on their right hand.

I fully agree that the adversary is running a multifaceted front. And it doesn't take much evidence to see that Islam is evil to the core and of Satan.

But to me, one can take the Bismillah headband off or remove the scarf from their hand. For it to be the mark it would have to be that once the mark was taken that was it, no more chance for salvation and that doesn't seem to fit this particular paradigm. I feel that Islam has a major role to play in the coming events but I just can't get behind this theory really.

The text of Revelation 13:18 I inserted above is from the Codex Sinaiticus, the oldest known copy of the New Testament. The video you linked references Codex Vaticanus but what they display is not the Codex Vaticanus. Vaticanus uses the same script as Sinaiticus. My initial thoughts are that, judging by the greek script used whatever manuscript they are showing in the video, it's of a much later date than ~350 A.D.

You can view the entire Codex Sinaiticus here: http://codexsinaiticus.org

Here's a little info on the Greek script:

Up until the 9th century, Greek texts were written entirely in upper case letters, referred to as Uncials. During the 9th and 10th centuries, the new lower-case writing hand of Minuscules came gradually to replace the older style. Most Greek Uncial manuscripts were recopied in this period and their parchment leaves typically scraped clean for re-use. Consequently, surviving Greek New Testament manuscripts from before the 9th century are relatively rare; but nine — over half of the total that survive — witness a more or less pure Alexandrian text. These include the oldest near-complete manuscripts of the New Testament Codex Vaticanus Graecus 1209 and Codex Sinaiticus (believed to date from the early 4th century CE).

My point being is that the earliest verified manuscript does NOT contain the Chi Xi Stigma in it.
If John had wanted to make sure that those Images were there, the earliest manuscripts would certainly have them.

The 666 requires wisdom.





Barcodes. He will require a mark in the right hand or forehead. Here is wisdom the number of man 666. A barcode.

Either way Brother we are on the way out of here and I don't want to be around to have to find out!

Maranatha!

Thanks Philip.

We are out of here soon brother so see you top side. I will have to study what you have suggested.

I have seen Muslim guys with a Bismallah tattoed on their right hand. I copied it down and I looked it up and found out what it was. This is how I found out this info.

For your discernment

I have also asked the Lord as to why of all the sins in the world that mainkind will and have committed why do these guys go into the lake of fire for just having a mark. I believe that I recievd the understanding that those would go into the lake of fire because only mankind can be saved and they will nolonger be men. I.e. My understanding is some sort of DNA or blood altering that results from the mark.

I am just sooooo thankful Lord Jesus that you are taking us all home.

Shalom everyone.

For information and discussion purposes. For your discernment.
John, old boy, I concur with your hypothesis regarding that the mark may change DNA- giving new meaning to the tares and the wheat at the time of the harvest. Also considering we live in the times of Noah (Where our Lord tells us that things will be as they were once in Noahs time so shall they be when Lord Jesus returns). What were the fallen angels doing? Mating with humans. Sounds similar to alien abductions and sex experiments that occur with them. Assuming the premise that this parallel is relevant and accurate in the context as I am relating it- then we shall see more DNA alteration. I've been following this microchipping trend for a while and here is what I have turned up.

RFID developments in modern society-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iotjubkVR5M&feature=player_detailpage

I am inclined to agree with this bloke. Which is why I think the mark is not just spiritual.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303360504577408222201533252.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

>>>then google transhumanism http://www.khouse.org/articles/2012/1039/ and http://lifeboat.com/ex/transhumanist.technologies Transhumanism is a legitimate field of scientific research >>>> these technologies with DNA modification match the parable of the Tares and the Wheat at the time of the harvest.

Then consider Roger Leir's research on alien implants that he has surgically removed from abductees. The latest reports is that there seems to be some altering of the DNA locally around the implanthttp://www.hearkenthewatchmen.com/article.asp?id=621

Could this also happen in Australia as with Obamacare? In Australia- Australia gearing up for mark of the beast?? This will need to be monitored. If this stuff is underwritten by commonwealth standards or commonwealth funded it will indicate where it can be taken. It’s a great idea on the surface- but if misused by govt can impinge on our freedoms.

http://www.medicareaustralia.gov.au/provider/health-identifier/index.jsp Health care identifier

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Licensing/Queensland-new-cards/Security-features.aspx New drivers licence- a note on ‘smart chips’ – they are used the same way as bank card rfids and can be swiped by scanners merely by having them in your pocket and walking past a sensor- therefore…if there are sensors around your movements are catalogued. The same way (but different to EFT in that it can be done without the person knowing) electronic funds withdrawals demonstrate where you buy things, what you buy and patterns etc. I anticipate that this will soon all be put onto one database/datacard for ease of ‘service delivery’. Apparently we lead the world with this organizational technology. Then consider the facial recognition photograph taken for new drivers licence and the ability of it to be uploaded on to government databases- a great idea for a godly government because of its positive applications…if ithe governmentt remains godly.

Then consider this article about Verichip. http://www.newswithviews.com/guest_opinion/guest54.htm Thomas Horns article (I think this one is from 2007) If you trace this company to its mother company and other subsidiaries you will see that it is almost everywhere. I hope that this benign and not the beginning of more serious things.

For your discernment.
Damian