ALL:

This morning, I looked to see if Five Doves had put up their
October letters yet. They had not so I glanced at

Guy Schwartz (30 Sep 2011) LINK
"'GREAT APOSTASY' or DEPARTURE/DISAPPEARANCE - Rapture first"

This post (above) was VERY well done in which Mr. Schwarz writes:

..."Before the 1611 King James translation, most of the Bibles
...translated the phrase "falling away" as "the departing." The
...following men translated falling away as departure: Lineberry,
...B.A., Cloverdale (1535), Crammer (1539), Robert Baker (1615),
...Beza (1565), John Dawson, A.B. says "apostasia" means "a
...departure from any place." Robert Scott (1811-1887) gives
...the second meaning of apostasia as "departure, disappearance."
...And any of you who have done a serious study of translations
...know that the KJV is not 'perfect' in all it's Greek translations,
...as Chinese scholar Watchman Nee found out.

...Kenneth Wuest, world renowned Greek scholar translates
...2 Thess. 2:3 as follows: "Do not allow anyone to lead you
...astray in any way, because that day shall not come (Second
...Coming of Christ) except the aforermentioned departure
...(rapture of the church to heaven) comes first, AND the man
...of lawlessness is disclosed (in his true identity), the man
...of perdition ..." (The New Testament - An Expanded Translation
...by Wuest)"

But I also say that God "HAS" revealed to some just wh"O" the AC
is before the masses "will be" revealed this info.

But, HERE'S WHAT GREATLY "SHOCKED" ME THIS MORNING!!!!!!

I went back and re-read my post from yesterday about Antares,
the "changing, red star" which is the "heart" of the scorpion
and which has a "shifty" personality like that of a trickster
or crafty politician!!!! BUT, when I read....

From: LINK
10th moon pass through Scorpio, 10/1/11 (in 2011)!!
11th (chaos) pass comes in October!!

...It's INTERESTING that on Halloween, 2008, just after "O"
...had given his clever 30 minute speech on October 29, 2008,
...the moon visited Antares (which, of course, represents the
...SAME "TYPE" of "shifty" personality of a master politician)!!
...Of course, Halloween is a night of "tricksters", and PERFECTLY
...REPRESENTS for what was "REALLY" was going on in this country
...- WE WERE BEING TRICKED!!!

..........., it came SOOO CLEARLY TO ME:

...FROM: O's "half an hour" - 10/29/08
...TO: O's ELECTION - 11/4/08....

IN BETWEEN WAS HALLOWEEN!!!!!!!!!

Believe me, "HALLOWEEN, 2008" was VERY, VERY DIFFERENT!! As
October turned to November, 2008 on Halloween night, the moon
passed Antares. This was a sign like a baton being handed to
a runner - "THINGS HAVE NOW CHANGED!!!!"

On November 5, 2008 (the day after the election), Kelly Herman
wrote:

.........last night when speaking to The Lord about wanting
...McCain to win, but yet it did not make sense to my spirit
...with what The Lord has shown us is about to take place.
...The Lord's response to me was, "I HAVE GIVEN THEM A KING
...OF THEIR CHOOSING."

...From: Fri., Oct. 31, 2008 - "trickster's night" moon at Antares
...To: Friday, October 7, 2011
...It is 1071 days
...Or: 153 weeks
...1071 = "JOINT HEIRS"

THE "FINAL" TRICK IS THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T WATCH AND...

I believe the culmination of 153 (1st Thessalonians 5:3) will NOW
TAKE PLACE:

...1 Thessalonians 5:3 (153)
...While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will
...come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and
...they will not escape.

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From:
Vincent Tan's Rev. 3 warning & our's (Philadelphia)
from a MAJOR "Noah" sign!!! LINK

...John 21
...11 Simon Peter climbed aboard and dragged the net ashore. It was
...full of large fish, 153, but even with so many the net was not torn.

From THE INFINITE BOOK (3/4 down into this URL)

LINK

...153 is considered Jesus Celestial number and 888 is considered
...His earthly.

...Sons of God = 153
...Joint Heirs = 1071 = 7x153

Other notes on 153 fishes:

LINK

...Matthew 13
...47 "Once again, the kingdom of heaven is LIKE A NET that was
...let down into the lake and caught all kinds of fish. 48 When it
...was full, the fishermen pulled it up on the shore. Then they sat
...down and collected the good fish in baskets, but threw the bad
...away. 49 This is how it will be at the END OF THE AGE. The
...angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous
...50 and throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be
...weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Meaning of the Number ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY AND THREE (153)

LINK

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QUESTION:

Is there a "possibility" that the rapture happens "DURING" this
153rd week (FROM HALLOWEEN, 2008 ) and the "boarding" begins on
this 1st day (of 7 days)?

or...

Will the boarding take place "during" this 153rd week?

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Below is from Charity's original post on April 22, 2009

I heard, "5, 6, 7, JESUS!" as Noah's Ark closed with a bang!
Okay, this is crazy!

I was in the kitchen cleaning up from lunch when I suddenly got
a splitting headache! So I quickly got the rest of the food in the
fridge while cringing in pain, and then layed down with a pillow
over my head (my "do not disturb" sign)

Well, anyway, about five minutes after laying down, I heard
"5, 6, 7, JESUS!" in my head. This kept repeating over and
over..."5, 6, 7, JESUS!" And with each "JESUS", I saw the
door of Noah's Ark being shut with a loud "BANG". So I heard
"JESUS" and "BANG" at the same time.

Any ideas about the "5, 6, 7"? I really don't know. I've still got a
pretty bad headache, but I just HAD to come post this and see
what y'all think. I'll check back in a bit!

...Isaiah 26
...19 But your dead will live; their bodies will rise.
...You who dwell in the dust, wake up and shout for joy.
...Your dew is like the dew of the morning;
...the earth will give birth to her dead.
...20 GO, MY PEOPLE, ENTER YOUR ROOMS,
...AND SHUT THE DOORS BEHIND YOU;
...HIDE YOURSELVES FOR A LITTLE WHILE
...UNTIL HIS WRATH HAS PASSED BY.
...21 See, the LORD is coming out of his dwelling
...to punish the people of the earth for their sins.
...The earth will disclose the blood shed upon her;
...she will conceal her slain no longer.

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I'm VERY HOPEFUL that 10/1/11 "IS" the rapture. If NOT, then,
I STRONGLY believe that the "countdown" in Charity's vision
was for "THIS WEEK"!!!! In other words, it TOTALLY seems that,
at least, 10/1 begins a 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 day countdown similar to
Noah's!!!!!!!!

"BLESSINGS!!!!"

"COME, LORD JESUS!!!!"

Calvin

(posted on 11/4/08 )
Obama, the 2nd Nimrod (the "Assyrian" & 11 11)

What are the chances!!!???

This morning, after I had eaten my breakfast, I was sitting at the table
watching TV and "happened" to flip the channel and COMING ON AT
THAT VERY SECOND WAS THE PORTION OF THE TOWER OF
BABEL!!!!!! The movie was on AMC and had started at 6:00 a.m.

The Bible: In the Beginning... - Theatrical Trailer

LINK

(go to 2:14 into the trailer to see a small portion of the Tower of Babel)

The Bible was intended by producer Dino De Laurentiis as the first in a series of films which would eventually cover the Old and New Testament in their entireties. The many directors engaged for this project dropped out one by one, leaving only the adventurous John Huston. As a result, this film was the first and last in the series; its subtitle In the Beginning refers to the fact that only the first 22 chapters of Genesis ended up on film. After creation, we are introduced to the buff-naked Adam and Eve (Michael Parks and Ulla Bergyd), whose fall from grace segues into the Cain and Abel story. Next on the docket is the story of Noah, played by director Huston, who'd originally wanted Charlie Chaplin for the role. Abraham's sacrifice is then dramatized, with George C. Scott as the beleaguered protagonist. In quick succession, we are offered THE TOWER OF BABEL, THE DEFIANCE OF NIMROD, and Sodom and Gomorroh. Tying together these Old Testament episodes is Peter O'Toole as three angels; Ava Gardner also shows up in the role of Sarah.

- Hal Erickson, All Movie Guide

The Bible - In the Beginning (1966)

20th Century Fox
John Huston

Tue Nov 04 @ 6AM | 5C

(posted on 11/3/08 )
Obama, the 2nd Nimrod (the "Assyrian" & 11 11)

ALL:

Somebody besides me should be looking this up!!!!

I am VERY late to the "Obama" table………BUT, maybe the "timing" was
NOT right until NOW for this "REVEALING" / these "pieces" falling together!!!

This "11 11" thing MUST be referring to the "REVEALING" of a 2nd Nimrod!!!
The story of the Tower or Babel is in Genesis 11. What we have is another
"get together" (JUST LIKE THIS) around another "Assyrian" - Obama!!!!

2 Thessalonians 2
The Man of Lawlessness
1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for (that day will not come) UNTIL THE REBELLION OCCURS AND THE MAN OF LAWLESSNESS IS REVEALED, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

5 Don't you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? 6 AND NOW YOU KNOW WHAT IS HOLDING HIM BACK, SO THAT HE MAY BE REVEALED AT THE PROPER TIME. 7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; BUT THE ONE WHO NOW HOLDS IT BACK WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO TILL HE IS TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY. 8 AND THEN THE LAWLESS ONE WILL BE REVEALED, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10 and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

Personally, because SO MANY are "getting" this (and MUCH QUICKER THAN
I WAS), it seems almost TOO CLEAR!!!!!!!!!!! (If Obama loses I take it back!)

This guy (article below the 5 Doves article) wrote this BACK from 2004-2006 so
he COULD NOT have known about THIS day……..

But FIRST read:

Patty Hayes (3 Nov 2008 ) 5 DOVES SITE
"Message"

Hi Doves,

Interesting information, I have sent an attachment from the Assyrian News about
Barack Obama. Secondly, pulling up the Ancient maps of just all where Assyria
extended itself to, shows itself going down the Nile and into the Sudan. I have
sent an article about

Obama's tribal heritage, the Luo Tribe. Good reading. Very close that Obama
may have the Ancient Assyrian Blood in his veins. Wow.

Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 7:51 PM
Message from: Patty Hayes (yahzootuffy@yahoo.com)

Please read the following article on AINA: Kenya, Islam and Obama Hussein

LINK

NOW…..(written in 2004-2006)………. HERE IS THE ARTICLE......

1) Is the "Assyrian" the antichrist?

LINK

Jesus Christ Will Be Ruler After the ASSYRIAN Comes and Treads In
Israel's Palaces

And this man shall be the peace, when the Assyrian shall come into our
land: and when he shall tread in our palaces , then shall we raise against
him seven shepherds, and eight principal men . -- Micah 5:5

He [the antichrist] shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the
seas in the glorious holy mountain...

- Daniel 11:45. We know that this person who puts his headquarters in
Israel is the antichrist. Consequently, since the Assyrian treads in our
palaces and the antichrist of Dan 11:45 plants the tabernacles ofhis palace
in Israel, they must be the same person, unless another treads the palaces
of Israel and we find none other.

Therefore, we have the answer to our question 1 - Is the "Assyrian" the
antichrist? The answer is - Yes, the Assyrian is the antichrist. For more
information on the Assyrian origin of the antichrist read this .

Antichrist's Own Land (Assyria, the Land of Nimrod) Is Destroyed After He

Treads Israel's Borders

And they [the Israelites, his brethren] shall waste the land of Assyria with
the sword, and the land of Nimrod in the entrances thereof: thus shall he
deliver us from the Assyrian, when he cometh into our land , and when he
treadeth within our borders. -- Micah 5:6

The city of Nineveh was the ancient capital of Assyria, which was located
near the present day town of Mosul in northern Iraq. Nimrod established
the city of Babylon & erected the Tower of Babel in Iraq. Apparently, the
Israelites will waste the land of Nimrod after Christ returns because they
would be unable to waste it during the tribulation because of the persecution
of the Jews and the tribulation saints by the antichrist.

And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. He was
a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the
mighty hunter before the LORD. And the beginning of his kingdom was
Babel, and Erech , and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. Out of
that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth,
and Calah, -- Genesis 10:8-11 [More on Calneh ]


Israel Will Become a Blessing in the Midst of the Nations During the 1000
Year Reign of Christ

And the remnant of Jacob shall be in the midst of many people as a dew
from the LORD, as the showers upon the grass, that tarrieth not for man,
nor waiteth for the sons of men. -- Micah 5:7

After the ASSYRIAN Smites Israel, the Voice of the LORD Beats Him Down

For through the voice of the LORD shall the ASSYRIAN be beaten down,
which smote with a rod. -- Isa 30:31

[Since we have already established that the Assyrian is the antichrist, we
know Isa 30:31 can not be until Jesus Christ returns in Rev 19:19 because
we find the "beast", another name for the antichrist, and the kings, and their
armies waiting to fight against Christ as He descends from heaven. Notice
that the antichrist shall be beaten down because he (past tense) "smote."
Therefore, he is beaten down upon the return of the Lord Jesus Christ at the
end of the tribulation in Revelation 19:19, which occurs after the Assyrian
antichrist smote with a rod during the second half of the tribulation.
In fact, the antichrist is not killed, but is cast alive into the lake of fire.

And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered
together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his
army. -- Revelation 19:19

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles
before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast,
and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of
fire burning with brimstone. -- Revelation 19:20]

The ASSYRIAN is the Rod of God's Anger Against Unbelieving Israel

O ASSYRIAN, the rod of mine anger , and the staff in their hand is mine
indignation. I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the
people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the
prey , and to tread them down like the mire of the streets. Howbeit he meaneth
not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut
off nations not a few. -- Isa 10:5-7 [The antichrist has no idea he is the antichrist
based upon this last sentence.]

The LORD Punishes the Assyrian When He Has
Finished His Whole Work Upon Mt Zion, Jerusalem

Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath performed his WHOLE
WORK upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem , I will punish the fruit of the stout heart
of the king of Assyria , and the glory of his high looks. -- Isa 10:12
[Since the Lord will not finish his whole work upon mount Zion and Jerusalem until
He physically returns, then, the King of Assyria is a future Assyrian king, not the
ancient king of Assyria.]

The LORD Will Break the Assyrian in Israel

The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come
to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand: That I will break the ASSYRIAN
in my land , and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart
from off them . This is the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth: and this
is the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations. For the LORD of hosts hath
purposed, and who shall disannul it? and his hand is stretched out, and who shall
turn it back? -- Isa 14:24-27

[The burden of the antichrist is removed when he is cast alive into the lake of fire in
Rev 19:20 after Jesus Christ returns. Up until that time he "continues for forty and
two months " during the last half of the tribulation period. The antichrist's yoke shall
depart from off at the time the LORD of hosts break the ASSYRIAN in
my land . A "yoke" is a continuing burden (an "occupation" if you will, such
"occupation" being sent forth from the tabernacles of his palace. This "yoke " is to
be distinguished from a military incursion. Such an incursion may take place (and
we will get to that shortly). However, the point here is to show that the antichrist
occupies when he shall tread in our [the Jews'] palaces. In order to occupy the
palaces, the antichrist must have a successful incursion.

Calvin,

Dear Brother, I truly believe that Charity's vision is related to the doors of heaven closing at Yom Kippur this year after the 10 days of Awe after Rosh Hashana.

Oct. 5, 6, 7 then Yom Kippur, heaven's door literally closes.

Submitted for your discernment dear brother...

All love and blessing in CHRIST JESUS!

TODD

Todd:

"THANKS VERY MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

I believe you may be correct "IF" this day passes!!!

I do NOT know how this could "FIT" better for Charity's
vision and the door of the Ark SLAMMING SHUT!!!

...Well, anyway, about five minutes after laying down, I heard
..."5, 6, 7, JESUS!" in my head. This kept repeating over and
...over..."5, 6, 7, JESUS!" And with each "JESUS", I saw the
...door of Noah's Ark being shut with a loud "BANG". So I heard
..."JESUS" and "BANG" at the same time.

[....we know that God Himself closed the door to the ark once Noah was inside, so perhaps there is a picture here of that great ark of heaven being open for us, until the completion of Yom Kippur, “God Himself will close the door”. After the Yom Kippur service, the doors of the ark of the covenant are closed, signifying the closing of the door of heaven; they blow the shofar once, and this is called “The Great Trump”. then that’s all she wrote for those who did not repent. (SEE BELOW)]

From the Internet:

Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, falls on the Hebrew calendar
date of 10 Tishrei. Here are the coinciding secular dates for
upcoming years: LINK

2011: October 7-8

WHY THE RAPTURE WILL BE ON YOM KIPPUR by Arlene LINK


Yom Kippur is a day of fasting, and atonement, so there is usually a rather large and hedonistic repast the day before this entire day of donning hair shirts and denial of the flesh. During the Yom Kippur service, the Ark of the Covenant is open, which contains the Torah; this signifies the gates of heaven which are purported to be open during this period. This should lead us into meditating upon those words of the Lord about Himself being “the door”, or the open gate, which also relates to Rosh Hashanah, in that the gates of heaven are open even for the last ten days of repentance before Yom Kippur. So, there is much fuss made about these open doors made during the time period between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. Also we shall look later at that door which was open to the Philadelphian church in Revelation, and that door which John saw as open in heaven for his invitation to “come up hither”.

First, before I forget it... I believe this is the only feast day of the Lord, which calls for a day of fasting. Additional prohibitions for the day of Yom Kippur are engaging in marital relations, weddings,

wearing leather shoes, or washing oneself, in addition to not drinking wine or eating food. Was our Lord referring to this day when He said that in the days of Noah, they were “eating and drinking” and “marrying and giving in marriage” until THE DAY that Noah entered into the ark. Likewise, prior to this year’s Yom Kippur, Jews will be “eating and drinking, and marrying and giving in marriage”, until THE DAY of Yom Kippur. Without getting flakey here... I read somewhere on the world-wide net, that the Ark of the Covenant, had the same ratio of measurements as the dimensions of the ark of Noah, and we know that God Himself closed the door to the ark once Noah was inside, so perhaps there is a picture here of that great ark of heaven being open for us, until the completion of Yom Kippur, “God Himself will close the door”. After the Yom Kippur service, the doors of the ark of the covenant are closed, signifying the closing of the door of heaven; they blow the shofar once, and this is called “The Great Trump”. then that’s all she wrote for those who did not repent.

thanks calvin !!

the message by arlene sounds encouraging !!!!