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Swedish Church members 'don't believe in Jesus'

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Published: 15 Jun 11 13:20 CET |
Updated: 15 Jun 11 17:12 CET
The Local Sweden


Only 15 percent of members of the Church of Sweden say they believe in
Jesus, and an equal number claim to be atheists according to the results
of a recent survey.


"It's not very high," Jonas Bromander, an analyst with the Church of
Sweden who was responsible for the study, told The Local in reference to
the figure.


"It's not really a problem; rather, it's a byproduct of the
secularisation in Swedish society which has taken place over many years."


More than 10,000 members of the Swedish Church participated in a
comprehensive membership survey carried out over the past year and
dubbed "Member 2010" (Medlem 2010).


According to the survey, 15 percent of church members they are atheists,
while a quarter of Swedish Church members identify themselves as agnostic.


The younger the members, the more likely they are to be atheists or
agnostics.


Bromander pointed out that there is no requirement that church members
believe in Jesus or any particular religious figure.


"Many are members, not for religious reasons, but because of the role
the church plays in society, or because it serves as an organisation
which maintains Swedish traditions," said Bromander.


"In fact, there are many members who would rather that we focus more on
our social work in Sweden than on Sunday services."


Of the roughly 6.6 million members of the Church of Sweden, about
400,000 are active churchgoers, attending services at least once a month.


According to the survey, 90 percent of church members have a weak
relationship with the Swedish Church, forcing the church to ponder
whether or not it remains a relevant institution in Swedish society.


The purpose of the study was to learn more about what sort of
expectations people have for the church and to see how the church "can
be relevant to people's lives in contemporary society".


Most said they are members in the Swedish Church because they are "have
a little faith, because the church does good work in society, and stands
for important traditions, at the same time thinking that the church
isn't especially relevant for them personally".


The study also revealed that members who have gone through the
confirmation process are more likely to see church membership as relevant.


"Therefore, there is reason to take the continued drop in the number
being confirmed with the utmost seriousnees."


Most members remain positive about the church, but the authors of the
report note that those who have the greatest need for "hope, comfort,
and open doors" don't appear to view the Swedish Church as giving them
as much as it gives those who are happy with their lives.


According to the study, if the church succeeds in providing assistance
to the poor, elderly, and other marginalised groups, it can expect its
members to view belonging to the church as more valuable.


"For many the church is a religious organisation and they want it to be
one, even if they don't believe in Jesus themselves," said Bromander,
adding that members see their membership as a way to support what the
church does.


Until 1996, Swedes automatically became members of the church at birth
if at least one parent was a member.


Members are obliged to pay just under 1 percent of their annual income
in church tax.


Until 2000, the Church of Sweden was an official state church.


Bromander said the figures indicate that the church may face a challenge
in balancing the needs of faithful and secular members.


"That will be something for church officials to discuss," he said.


"There is a risk of an increasing divide between those who are more
engaged and those who aren't engaged."

http://groups.google.com/group/bible-prophecy-news/browse_thread/thread/5a6252010a782130#

Re: Swedish Church members 'don't believe in Jesus'

Good question from the Bible!!!

Luke 18:8 ...... Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth? (KJV)

Re: Swedish Church members 'don't believe in Jesus'

18 ¶ And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;
19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.
20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.
25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.
26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
28 And I will give him the morning star.


They could fall under the Ladocia Church as well, I guess, but this Great Tribulation and the reason behind it.

Some people thinks every Christian is going up.. This is not what I read in the Word of God.. Jesus is speaking about HIS Church, the what they must do..


Joseph

Re: Swedish Church members 'don't believe in Jesus'

Wow, the numbers are astounding of non-believers...surely, the road to the Kingdom of God is indeed very narrow.

Re: Swedish Church members 'don't believe in Jesus'

AND THEIR REASON FOR GOING TO CHURCH IS ?????

Re: Swedish Church members 'don't believe in Jesus'

I have visited Sweden twice and have very dear friends who are believers. As I understand it, all Swedish people are "born into" the Swedish Church. Yes, it is more of a society thing, and it is understandable that many don't believe in the fundamental elements of Christian Doctrine. My friends had to officially remove themselves from the Church of Sweden's registers and are now worshipping in "free churches".

bless ya

David

Re: Swedish Church members 'don't believe in Jesus'

Sadly, this sounds a lot like many of the mainline denominational churches in America today. At least there are still some of us who are believers in Jesus Christ today. I pray that the Lord will take us up soon.

Kevin

Re: Swedish Church members 'don't believe in Jesus'

We people that believe are the church of God ...When two or more are gathered together in my name I am in there mist....Our country can say that all people born in America are Americans but that doesnt mean they stand by the constitution....So these people are born into a church but it doesn't mean they are bible believers... The falling away has definitely begun....Remember in the end times if itwere possible even the most elect will be decieved

Re: Swedish Church members 'don't believe in Jesus'

Amen Ginger, a Big Amen!

Welcome to Rapture Flight to Heaven!

Glad to have you aboard!

Jesus is Coming very soon, and this post and others here testify to the apostasy that is taken place right before our eyes!

Blesssing & Welcome in Jesus Name,

Valerie

Re: Swedish Church members 'don't believe in Jesus'

Ginger,
Your absolutely right. Welcome to RFTH! God bless you!

Kevin