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Tom

Dec 20, 2011 - 5:41PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

is this site eligible?

http://www.indiehoy.com/especiales/los-50-discos-del-2011/

Dec 20th, 2011 - 5:41 PM

Harold Wexler

Dec 19, 2011 - 11:22PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

Eligible: Spex
Ineligible: Blare

Relevant is a culture/pop-culture magazine aimed at progressive Christians. It's not primarily a music magazine. I don't think it's eligible, but I'm not 100% sure.

Harold Wexler

Dec 20, 2011 - 8:34PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

Tom

is this site eligible?

http://www.indiehoy.com/especiales/los-50-discos-del-2011/

It certainly seems to be. Please post the list in the forum - as a new post, please, not in this thread - and let us know what country the site originates from.

Harold Wexler

Dec 20, 2011 - 8:45PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

Eligible: Complex, Bowlegs, Little White Earbuds, CokeMachineGlow, The Agit Reader, Austin Town Hall, Associated Press (I'm assuming that the AP list is a poll, not just Moody's personal list - can anyone clarify?), Word

Waiting for final ruling: G vs. B, GoGoYoko, Relevant

Henrik

Dec 20, 2011 - 10:34PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

Harold Wexler

Waiting for final ruling: G vs. B, GoGoYoko, Relevant

Thanks for that summary Harold, I was drowning in all lists. I don't envy your task right now! However, having said that I am silently working with some huge all-time songs lists at the moment.

Gogoyoko and Relevant... I really have trouble to decide about these! Since you probably have enough to do anyway, perhaps you can put them "on hold" for a while, together with GvB...

Harold Wexler

Dec 20, 2011 - 10:52PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

Henrik

Harold Wexler

Waiting for final ruling: G vs. B, GoGoYoko, Relevant

Thanks for that summary Harold, I was drowning in all lists. I don't envy your task right now! However, having said that I am silently working with some huge all-time songs lists at the moment.

Gogoyoko and Relevant... I really have trouble to decide about these! Since you probably have enough to do anyway, perhaps you can put them "on hold" for a while, together with GvB...

Thanks, Henrik!

Matski

Dec 23, 2011 - 10:23PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

Okay Harold,

Having checked in late to see if AllMusic will publish a compilation list and there doesn't look there will be one. Instead I've added the other lists they posted this week. There weren't that many left anyway and I've excluded both their Compilations and Reissues lists as I'm doubting their suitability. I've linked them both respectively in case you feel differently.

Hope that doesn't give you too much work to cover and that you'll otherwise enjoy your weekend.

Dec 23rd, 2011 - 10:23 PM

Harold Wexler

Dec 24, 2011 - 3:56PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

Eligible (and already on spreadsheet): State, OOR, Quart

Eligible: Mowno, XLR8R, Scanner FM, The Line of Best Fit, Soundi, Kalporz

Ineligible: I Heart AU, The Music Fix, all the one-critic newspaper lists

Uncertain but probably eligible: The L Magazine is a general-interest Brooklyn culture mag, but this -is- a multi-critic list, so I'd imagine it's eligible. Henrik?

Spaz

Jan 9, 2012 - 9:36PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

Harold Wexler

The same, to a lesser degree, goes for Rock First. Five bizarrely clumped categories, with 3 top picks and 10 honorable mentions in each one - c'mon, folks, what's wrong with a good old-fashioned top 50? (Having said that, I'm open to being persuaded.)

Actually I have an idea: what if everyone of the top picks from each genre were weighted equally as #1 and the honorable mentions as #2, all of them? This is just my suggestion which could be, of course, terribly miscalculated or bizzare since I am really inexeprienced regarding this Excel format which helps the compilation of lists in this sit.

Harold Wexler

Jan 9, 2012 - 10:29PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

Spaz

Harold Wexler

In situations like this, the way the rankings are usually handled would probably give the top three picks an average rank of 2 (they're unranked, but above the others in the category) and the HM's a rank of 8 (halfway between 4-13). Or something like that. In any case, I'm still not convinced on including this one.

Henrik

Jan 10, 2012 - 9:04AM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

Harold Wexler

Spaz

Harold Wexler

Either that, or 8 (halfway between 1 and 15) and 40 (halfway between 16 and 65). I think both will produce similar results.

Edit: If you use 2 and 8, the values are the total number of albums divided by 5 (five categories). The same should then be done for the "+30" value which then becomes 13+30/5=19

Henrik

Jan 10, 2012 - 9:23AM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

Harold Wexler

Uncertain but probably eligible: The L Magazine is a general-interest Brooklyn culture mag, but this -is- a multi-critic list, so I'd imagine it's eligible. Henrik?

Sorry Harold, I missed this one. I think it should be included.

Harold Wexler

Jan 10, 2012 - 12:27PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

Henrik

Harold Wexler

Uncertain but probably eligible: The L Magazine is a general-interest Brooklyn culture mag, but this -is- a multi-critic list, so I'd imagine it's eligible. Henrik?

Sorry Harold, I missed this one. I think it should be included.

I figured you would - that's why I already included it, several weeks ago.

Harold Wexler

Jan 10, 2012 - 12:29PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

Henrik

So, if I use 8 and 40 would the +30 value just be a straight 95 (65 + 30)? That seems like the best way to go.

Henrik

Jan 10, 2012 - 12:57PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

Harold Wexler

Henrik

Harold Wexler

Uncertain but probably eligible: The L Magazine is a general-interest Brooklyn culture mag, but this -is- a multi-critic list, so I'd imagine it's eligible. Henrik?

Sorry Harold, I missed this one. I think it should be included.

I figured you would - that's why I already included it, several weeks ago.

95, yes.

Harold Wexler

Jan 10, 2012 - 2:30PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

A top 10 list was just posted from an Australian magazine called Rip It Up. The blog's Alexa rank is just slightly over 1M, there are 170 sites linking in, and it's a print mag as well. The rank is the only thing making this a borderline decision, but I'd guess it's eligible. Henrik?

Harold Wexler

Jan 10, 2012 - 4:05PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

OK, if Total Guitar was eligible, then Guitar World probably is, too. Thoughts, Henrik?

Henrik

Jan 10, 2012 - 6:40PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

I think all print magazines should be included.

Harold Wexler

Jan 10, 2012 - 6:47PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

Henrik

I think all print magazines should be included.

This answers both of my last questions. Thanks!

Pazz & Jop results are released next Tuesday (Jan. 18). Can't wait, especially in a year as wide open as this (PJH's dominance of the spreadsheet notwithstanding, I just don't see Let England Shake topping the poll). The obvious pick for the P&J #1 would probably be Bon Iver, but I don't know - the critics could go for Fleet Foxes or Tom Waits or tUnE-yArDs, or maybe make a statement about the changing industry by giving it to The Weeknd.

Harold Wexler

Jan 20, 2012 - 9:08PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

Eligibility questions:
La Presse (cyberpresse.ca) (Canada)
Passion of the Weiss (USA) (passionweiss.com) - see post

Spreadsheet scoring questions:
*La Presse (if eligible): 50 albums (originally 60, but Romain omitted the classical and reissue lists), divided into eight lists, all ranked - 2 top 10s, 6 top 5s.
*Chroniques Electroniques: 55 albums, divided into lists covering 3 categories of electronic music: 1 ranked top 20, 1 unranked top 20, 1 ranked top 15.

Henrik, for each of the above, I'd appreciate some advice on what the +30 score should be, and for CE, how to handle the unranked list (each album assigned a rank of 10.5, perhaps?)

Thanks in advance.

Henrik

Jan 20, 2012 - 9:58PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

Harold Wexler

They both look eligible to me.

For the scoring, I'm just making something up here... let me know if it sounds stupid.
La Presse: Data in two columns, top 10s and top 5s. The +30 value is 14 and 9 (30 divided by 8 lists is roughly 4).
CE: I like your suggestion, with 30 as the +30 value.

Harold Wexler

Jan 20, 2012 - 10:10PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

Henrik

Harold Wexler

Spreadsheet scoring questions:
*La Presse (if eligible): 50 albums (originally 60, but Romain omitted the classical and reissue lists), divided into eight lists, all ranked - 2 top 10s, 6 top 5s.
*Chroniques Electroniques: 55 albums, divided into lists covering 3 categories of electronic music: 1 ranked top 20, 1 unranked top 20, 1 ranked top 15.

Henrik, for each of the above, I'd appreciate some advice on what the +30 score should be, and for CE, how to handle the unranked list (each album assigned a rank of 10.5, perhaps?)

Thanks in advance.

For the scoring, I'm just making something up here... let me know if it sounds stupid.
La Presse: Data in two columns, top 10s and top 5s. The +30 value is 14 and 9 (30 divided by 8 lists is roughly 4).
CE: I like your suggestion, with 30 as the +30 value.

So, if I'm reading you correctly, row 3 should be as follows:
*La Presse, column 1 (the 2 top 10 lists): 14
*La Presse, column 2 (the 6 top 5 lists): 9
*Chroniques Electronique: 30

Just making sure. Thanks!

Henrik

Jan 20, 2012 - 10:15PM

Re: EOY Albums 2011: Eligibility thread

Correct