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Henrik, Portuguese albums according to Blitz is now published.
Thanks Harold for summarizing this. I definitely think Total Guitar should be eligible. It is even an in print magazine. Otherwise we agree.
Thanks for the clarification on Total Guitar.
Henrik, I get the feeling you haven't looked at the Exclaim thread. Please clarify that when you have the chance.
Eligible: NPR, The Quietus, Stereogum, A.V. Club, HotTracks
Eligible: NME, Intro, Blitz (natl), Telerama, Rolling Stone, The Skinny, Thrash Hits, NoiseCreep (Henrik, please confirm those last two and whether the +30 weight should be the same)
Ineligible: MTV, Time
I thnk that Total Guitar has not been included in the spreadsheet so far-correct me if I'm wrong.
No, it hasn't been added yet. I'm not necessarily adding every list as it comes in. I'm planning to add it before the next update.
Ineligible: MTV, Time
What we have to look in Alexa Ranking for choose if a site is eligible or not ?
Thank you.
Thank you.
From Henrik: "Good Alexa stats are rank < 1,000,000 and sites linking in > 100."
Eligible: Aftenposten, musicOMH, Magnet, Yers Mag
Ineligible: Stack, Gorilla vs. Bear
The GvB issue was decided last year.
Thank you.
From Henrik: "Good Alexa stats are rank < 1,000,000 and sites linking in > 100."
OK, thanks.
Mowno is it OK for you ?
http://www.mowno.com/zoom/playlists-zoom/bilan-2011-en-50-titres/
Alexa ranking : OK
It's a team....so I think it's good.
Eligible: PopMatters, Prefix, Spin, Gigwise, Antiquiet, Treble, Drowned in Sound (when complete)
Ineligible: Vivoscene (sorry, Nicolas!)
Eligible: Billboard, This is Fake DIY
I'd never heard of This is Fake DIY until its list was posted. Its Alexa numbers are amazing. I assume it's eligible - it looks like your basic pop-culture magazine/blog.
Eligible: OneThirtyBPM, Jenasaispop, Resident Advisor, Slant
Ineligible: Urban Outfitters
I -assume- that the Urban Outfitters list is ineligible, since it's a clothing outlet rather than a music/culture site. Henrik, please let me know if you agree - and let me know about This is Fake DIY as well, because I'm still not 100% on that.
And for Mowno ?
Just for know if I put the top album list in addition to the songs list.
Just for know if I put the top album list in addition to the songs list.
Eligible: Pitchfork, Spinner, Playground, MuzikExpress, Les Inrockuptibles, Laut, Indiepoprock
Eligible: Pretty Much Amazing, Tiny Mix Tapes, Consequence of Sound, The Age, Nojesguiden
As Publico is a daily newspaper, I don't know whether their list is eligible. Can someone let me know if this is a single-critic list or a poll?
Harold, the Publico list is the choice of 8 Critics, so I guess it is eligble.
Harold, I haven't checked all the EOY list threads. Is it ok if I only look for eligibility questions in this thread? Really though, I trust your own assessments, so just go ahead and make decisions if you want to.
Yes, I was thinking about this too. From here on out I'll put album-list eligibility questions here.
At some point, given the number of new sources emerging, I'll probably need you to add more columns to the spreadsheet (especially in the UK section). We're not quite there yet, but I'll let you know.
Catching up:
Eligible: No Ripcord (already on spreadsheet, but I thought I'd note it here for completeness's sake), Under the Radar, Muso's Guide, Kerrang!, Muzikalia, Dagsavisen, Humo, The Owl Mag, New Noise, Publico
Ineligible: Boston Globe, Web in Front
Uncertain: GoGoYoko (an Icelandic record store, w/ good Alexa stats), Gorilla vs. Bear
If AllMusic compiles an all-encompassing EOY list, I'll include that. At the moment I'm not inclined to deal with all these separate, unranked genre lists.
The same, to a lesser degree, goes for Rock First. Five bizarrely clumped categories, with 3 top picks and 10 honorable mentions in each one - c'mon, folks, what's wrong with a good old-fashioned top 50? (Having said that, I'm open to being persuaded.)
Eligible: Spex
Ineligible: Blare
Relevant is a culture/pop-culture magazine aimed at progressive Christians. It's not primarily a music magazine. I don't think it's eligible, but I'm not 100% sure.
Too many one-time names to account for? I'm not too sure if they'll do a collated 'list of the best' this year but if they do and no else has posted it I'll be sure to make it known. Otherwise, I may just keep posting the other updates for reference, or even amusement. After all some of the best ones are yet to come, such as the electronic and metal selections...
List of specific genre is not OK for the EOY isnt'it ?
Like this :
Top album techno house :
http://www.chroniqueselectroniques.net/article-top-albums-2011-techno-house-93252187.html
Like this :
Top album techno house :
http://www.chroniqueselectroniques.net/article-top-albums-2011-techno-house-93252187.html
I'm presuming they're going to have EOY lists for each category they cover. Since it's a genre-specific website - with good Alexa stats - I think all their lists would be eligible. Please post all the lists on the forum once they're released.
@ Harold Wexler - I'd be extremely surprised if they didn't have good Alexa results. :p
No problems, with that otherwise. I'll be sure to collate them all at the end of the week then, if no-one else does it first...
@ Romain - Possibly, but AllMusic will go through every major genre eventually rather than just pick a small taster of modern styles. At the end you'll get a wide collection that is much more diverse than many other lists. The problem it leads to is that a much larger list of albums. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them weren't in any other publication's EoY list.
is this site eligible?
http://www.indiehoy.com/especiales/los-50-discos-del-2011/
I'm presuming they're going to have EOY lists for each category they cover. Since it's a genre-specific website - with good Alexa stats - I think all their lists would be eligible. Please post all the lists on the forum once they're released.
Thansk to you and Matski.
http://www.indiehoy.com/especiales/los-50-discos-del-2011/
It certainly seems to be. Please post the list in the forum - as a new post, please, not in this thread - and let us know what country the site originates from.
Just for know if I put the top album list in addition to the songs list.
Romain, has Mowno published its EOY album list yet?
Eligible: Complex, Bowlegs, Little White Earbuds, CokeMachineGlow, The Agit Reader, Austin Town Hall, Associated Press (I'm assuming that the AP list is a poll, not just Moody's personal list - can anyone clarify?), Word
Waiting for final ruling: G vs. B, GoGoYoko, Relevant
SOrry, not yet.
I only have the 2010's list ;-)
Gogoyoko and Relevant... I really have trouble to decide about these! Since you probably have enough to do anyway, perhaps you can put them "on hold" for a while, together with GvB...
Gogoyoko and Relevant... I really have trouble to decide about these! Since you probably have enough to do anyway, perhaps you can put them "on hold" for a while, together with GvB...
Thanks, Henrik!
Okay Harold,
Having checked in late to see if AllMusic will publish a compilation list and there doesn't look there will be one. Instead I've added the other lists they posted this week. There weren't that many left anyway and I've excluded both their Compilations and Reissues lists as I'm doubting their suitability. I've linked them both respectively in case you feel differently.
Hope that doesn't give you too much work to cover and that you'll otherwise enjoy your weekend.
Eligible (and already on spreadsheet): State, OOR, Quart
Eligible: Mowno, XLR8R, Scanner FM, The Line of Best Fit, Soundi, Kalporz
Ineligible: I Heart AU, The Music Fix, all the one-critic newspaper lists
Uncertain but probably eligible: The L Magazine is a general-interest Brooklyn culture mag, but this -is- a multi-critic list, so I'd imagine it's eligible. Henrik?
The same, to a lesser degree, goes for Rock First. Five bizarrely clumped categories, with 3 top picks and 10 honorable mentions in each one - c'mon, folks, what's wrong with a good old-fashioned top 50? (Having said that, I'm open to being persuaded.)
Actually I have an idea: what if everyone of the top picks from each genre were weighted equally as #1 and the honorable mentions as #2, all of them? This is just my suggestion which could be, of course, terribly miscalculated or bizzare since I am really inexeprienced regarding this Excel format which helps the compilation of lists in this sit.
The same, to a lesser degree, goes for Rock First. Five bizarrely clumped categories, with 3 top picks and 10 honorable mentions in each one - c'mon, folks, what's wrong with a good old-fashioned top 50? (Having said that, I'm open to being persuaded.)
Actually I have an idea: what if everyone of the top picks from each genre were weighted equally as #1 and the honorable mentions as #2, all of them? This is just my suggestion which could be, of course, terribly miscalculated or bizzare since I am really inexeprienced regarding this Excel format which helps the compilation of lists in this sit.
In situations like this, the way the rankings are usually handled would probably give the top three picks an average rank of 2 (they're unranked, but above the others in the category) and the HM's a rank of 8 (halfway between 4-13). Or something like that. In any case, I'm still not convinced on including this one.
The same, to a lesser degree, goes for Rock First. Five bizarrely clumped categories, with 3 top picks and 10 honorable mentions in each one - c'mon, folks, what's wrong with a good old-fashioned top 50? (Having said that, I'm open to being persuaded.)
Actually I have an idea: what if everyone of the top picks from each genre were weighted equally as #1 and the honorable mentions as #2, all of them? This is just my suggestion which could be, of course, terribly miscalculated or bizzare since I am really inexeprienced regarding this Excel format which helps the compilation of lists in this sit.
In situations like this, the way the rankings are usually handled would probably give the top three picks an average rank of 2 (they're unranked, but above the others in the category) and the HM's a rank of 8 (halfway between 4-13). Or something like that. In any case, I'm still not convinced on including this one.
Edit: If you use 2 and 8, the values are the total number of albums divided by 5 (five categories). The same should then be done for the "+30" value which then becomes 13+30/5=19
I figured you would - that's why I already included it, several weeks ago.
Edit: If you use 2 and 8, the values are the total number of albums divided by 5 (five categories). The same should then be done for the "+30" value which then becomes 13+30/5=19
So, if I use 8 and 40 would the +30 value just be a straight 95 (65 + 30)? That seems like the best way to go.
I figured you would - that's why I already included it, several weeks ago.
95, yes.
A top 10 list was just posted from an Australian magazine called Rip It Up. The blog's Alexa rank is just slightly over 1M, there are 170 sites linking in, and it's a print mag as well. The rank is the only thing making this a borderline decision, but I'd guess it's eligible. Henrik?
OK, if Total Guitar was eligible, then Guitar World probably is, too. Thoughts, Henrik?
I think all print magazines should be included.
This answers both of my last questions. Thanks!
Pazz & Jop results are released next Tuesday (Jan. 18). Can't wait, especially in a year as wide open as this (PJH's dominance of the spreadsheet notwithstanding, I just don't see Let England Shake topping the poll). The obvious pick for the P&J #1 would probably be Bon Iver, but I don't know - the critics could go for Fleet Foxes or Tom Waits or tUnE-yArDs, or maybe make a statement about the changing industry by giving it to The Weeknd.
Eligibility questions:
La Presse (cyberpresse.ca) (Canada)
Passion of the Weiss (USA) (passionweiss.com) - see post
Spreadsheet scoring questions:
*La Presse (if eligible): 50 albums (originally 60, but Romain omitted the classical and reissue lists), divided into eight lists, all ranked - 2 top 10s, 6 top 5s.
*Chroniques Electroniques: 55 albums, divided into lists covering 3 categories of electronic music: 1 ranked top 20, 1 unranked top 20, 1 ranked top 15.
Henrik, for each of the above, I'd appreciate some advice on what the +30 score should be, and for CE, how to handle the unranked list (each album assigned a rank of 10.5, perhaps?)
Thanks in advance.
La Presse (cyberpresse.ca) (Canada)
Passion of the Weiss (USA) (passionweiss.com) - see post
Spreadsheet scoring questions:
*La Presse (if eligible): 50 albums (originally 60, but Romain omitted the classical and reissue lists), divided into eight lists, all ranked - 2 top 10s, 6 top 5s.
*Chroniques Electroniques: 55 albums, divided into lists covering 3 categories of electronic music: 1 ranked top 20, 1 unranked top 20, 1 ranked top 15.
Henrik, for each of the above, I'd appreciate some advice on what the +30 score should be, and for CE, how to handle the unranked list (each album assigned a rank of 10.5, perhaps?)
Thanks in advance.
For the scoring, I'm just making something up here... let me know if it sounds stupid.
La Presse: Data in two columns, top 10s and top 5s. The +30 value is 14 and 9 (30 divided by 8 lists is roughly 4).
CE: I like your suggestion, with 30 as the +30 value.
Spreadsheet scoring questions:
*La Presse (if eligible): 50 albums (originally 60, but Romain omitted the classical and reissue lists), divided into eight lists, all ranked - 2 top 10s, 6 top 5s.
*Chroniques Electroniques: 55 albums, divided into lists covering 3 categories of electronic music: 1 ranked top 20, 1 unranked top 20, 1 ranked top 15.
Henrik, for each of the above, I'd appreciate some advice on what the +30 score should be, and for CE, how to handle the unranked list (each album assigned a rank of 10.5, perhaps?)
Thanks in advance.
For the scoring, I'm just making something up here... let me know if it sounds stupid.
La Presse: Data in two columns, top 10s and top 5s. The +30 value is 14 and 9 (30 divided by 8 lists is roughly 4).
CE: I like your suggestion, with 30 as the +30 value.
So, if I'm reading you correctly, row 3 should be as follows:
*La Presse, column 1 (the 2 top 10 lists): 14
*La Presse, column 2 (the 6 top 5 lists): 9
*Chroniques Electronique: 30
Just making sure. Thanks!
Correct