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Henrik



Aug 1, 07 - 2:10 PM 		Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

This is the seventh part of the best albums and songs of the 1990s poll, which is described here.

You are welcome to list and discuss your favorite albums and/or songs of 1997 in this thread. List(s) need to be posted before the end of August to be included in the calculation of the combined top 10 albums and top 10 songs of 1997. You can include both albums and songs listed at Acclaimed Music and your personal favourites.

Songs are sometimes released a year before it appears on an album and the release date can differ between countries. Please have a look at the 1997 album and song lists before voting, as albums and songs listed under 1997 at Acclaimed Music will only be counted in the forum poll if they are included in this month's ballots.

Please include at least 5 albums/songs. The scoring system is as follows for both albums and songs.

1. 50
2. 40
3. 35
4. 30
5. 25
6. 20
7. 18
8. 16
9. 14
10. 12
11. 10
12. 9
13. 8
14. 7
15. 6
16. 5
17. 4
18. 3
19. 2
20. 1
Jonah



Aug 1st, 2007 - 2:22 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

OK, a quick question for all of you before I start putting this 1997 one together.

First of all, I didn't listen some of Belle and Sebastian's EP songs until I got the Push Barman to Open Old Wounds compilation. I'm guessing I can use the original EP release dates and rank them in the lists for the appropriate year.

I'm also a big fan of Beta Band, but I didn't get into them until 1999. I first bought the self-titled full length then the 3Eps compilation, the latter of which I thought was released in the same year as the full length.

Was the first Beta Band EP released in the UK in 1997, hence Dry the Rain being ranked in the 1997 year list? Were the second two EPs released in 1998?
Henrik



Aug 1st, 2007 - 2:38 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Correct!
twister

chrismorris84@hotmail.com


Aug 1st, 2007 - 3:06 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Albums:

1. Radiohead - OK Computer
2. The Flaming Lips - Zaireeka
3. Blur - Blur
4. Travis - Good Feeling
5. The Verve - Urban Hymns
6. Super Furry Animals - Radiator
7. Foo Fighters - The Colour And The Shape
8. Oasis - Be Here Now
9. Stereophonics - Word Gets Around
10. Green Day - Nimrod.
11. James - Whiplash
12. Jay-Z - In My Lifetime, Vol. 1
13. The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death
14. The Seahorses - Do It Yourself
15. The Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole
16. Portishead - Portishead
17. Roni Size/Reprazent - New Forms
18. David Bowie - Earthling
19. Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind
20. Space - Spiders

Songs:

1. Radiohead - "Exit Music (For A Film)"
2. Radiohead - "Karma Police"
3. Radiohead - "Paranoid Android"
4. The Verve - "The Drugs Don't Work"
5. The Seahorses - "Blinded By The Sun"
6. The Beta Band - "Dry The Rain"
7. Radiohead - "No Surprises"
8. Blur - "Song 2"
9. Blur - "You're So Great"
10. Foo Fighters - "New Way Home"
11. Foo Fighters - "Everlong"
12. Foo Fighters - "Monkey Wrench"
13. The Supernaturals - "Love Has Passed Away"
14. Oasis - "All Around the World"
15. Oasis - "Stand by Me"
16. Super Furry Animals - "Hermann Heart's Pauline"
17. The Flaming Lips - "Riding to Work in the Year 2025 (Your Invisible Now)"
18. Bob Dylan - "Highlands"
19. Blink 182 - "Dammit"
20. Robbie Williams - "Angels"
Captain For Dark Mornings



Aug 1st, 2007 - 4:26 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

It was a very good year...

Albums:

1.Radiohead - OK Computer (obviously)
2.Elliott Smith - Either/Or
3.Portishead - Portishead
4.U2 - Pop
5.Morrissey - Maladjusted (I'd be surprised if anyone else has this as high)

I'd be voting for The Verve if 'Urban Hymns' was much shorter. Too much jamming and repitition for me.
Jonah



Aug 1st, 2007 - 11:36 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

It might be just me, but I was surprised at how thin 1997 was for albums. I guess I just thought the year that OK Computer came out would be rich with full lengths, but I really had to go back to the archives to come up with a small handful. Anyways,

Albums:

1. Radiohead - OK Computer
2. Daft Punk - Homework
3. Stereolab - Dots and Loops
4. Smashing Pumpkins - Adore
5. Ben Folds Five - Whatever and Ever Amen
6. Amon Tobin - Bricolage
7. David Bowie - Earthling
8. American Analog Set - From Our Living Room to Yours
Fred



Aug 2nd, 2007 - 12:11 AM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Songs:

1. Beta Band – Dry The Rain
2. Cardiacs - Dirty Boy
3. Portishead – All Mine
4. Primal Scream – Burning Wheel
5. Elliott Smith – Between The Bars
6. Supergrass – Richard III
7. Deftones – Be Quiet And Drive
8. Alpha – Somewhere Not Here
9. Robert Wyatt – Free Will And Testament
10. In The Woods – 299.976 kmps
11. Elliott Smith – Miss Misery
12. Radiohead – No Surprises
13. Bran Van 3000 – Drinkin’ In LA
14. Tito & Tarantula – Angry Cockroaches
15. Divine Comedy - In Pursuit Of Happiness
16. Flaming Lips – The Big Ol’ Bug Is The New Baby Now
17. Supergrass – Sun Hits The Sky
18. Bob Dylan - Cold Irons Bound
19. Prefab Sprout - Prisoner Of The Past
20. Radiohead – Exit Music (For A Film)


Albums:

1. Supergrass - In It For The Money
2. Radiohead - OK Computer
damosuzuki



Aug 2nd, 2007 - 1:34 AM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

albums

1 ) smog - red apple falls
2 ) bob dylan - time out of mind
3 ) robert wyatt - shleep
4 ) old 97's - too far to care
5 ) will oldham - joya
6 ) flying saucer attack - new lands
7 ) eric matthews - lateness of the hour
8 ) luna - pup tent
9 ) ivy - apartment life
10 ) redd kross - show world
11 ) yes - keys to ascension 2
12 ) pavement - brighten the corners
13 ) jim o'rourke - bad timing
14 ) apples in stereo - tone soul evolution
15 ) sea and the cake - the fawn
16 ) mountain goats - full force galesburg
17 ) yo la tengo - I can hear the heart beating as one
18 ) son volt - straightaways
19 ) sundays - static and silence
20 ) megadeth - cryptic warnings


songs

1) I was a stranger - smog
2) standing in the doorway - dylan
3) not dark yet - dylan
4) pleasant kind - eric matthews
5) torn - natalie imbruglia
6) ballad of big nothing - elliot smith
7) to be of use - smog
8) sugarcube - yo la tengo
9) one more hour - sleater-kinney
10) type slowly - pavement
11) holding on to love - shania twain
12) if they move kill 'em - primal scream
13) salome - old 97's
14) west texas teardrops - old 97's
15) fin - pavement
16) I am still what I meant to be - will oldham
17) sporting life - sea and cake
18) prisoner of the past - prefab sprout
19) the best thing - ivy
20) mess around - redd kross
tremolo



Aug 2nd, 2007 - 4:31 AM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

ALBUMS
01 YO LA TENGO I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One
02 ELLIOTT SMITH Either/Or
03 JIM O'ROURKE Bad Timing
04 SPIRITUALIZED Ladies and Getlemen We Are Floating in Space
05 BUENA VISTA SOCIAL CLUB Buena Vista Social Club
06 RONI SIZE/REPRAZENT New Forms
07 NICK CAVE AND THE BAD SEEDS The Boatman's Call
08 COMPANY FLOW Funcrusher Plus
09 THE SEA AND CAKE The Fawn
10 SMOG Red Apple Falls
11 ROBERT WYATT Shleep
12 THE FLAMING LIPS Zaireeka
13 DAFT PUNK Homework
14 TINDERSTICKS Curtains
15 PORTISHEAD Portishead
16 SQUAREPUSHER Hard Normal Daddy
17 MOGWAI Young Team
18 SR CHINARRO El Porqué de Mis Peinados
19 RADIOHEAD OK Computer
20 BJORK Homogenic


SONGS
01 MISSY MISDEMEANOR ELLIOTT The Rain (Supla Dupla Fly)
02 ELLIOTT SMITH Ballad of Big Nothing
03 BUENA VISTA SOCIAL CLUB Dos Gardenias
04 PRIMAL SCREAM Kowalski
05 ROBERT WYATT Free Will and Testament
06 YO LA TENGO Deeper Into Movies
07 THE SEA AND CAKE The Sporting Life
08 ANDRES CALAMARO Flaca
09 YO LA TENGO Moby Octopad
10 RONI SIZE/REPRAZENT Brown Paper Bag
11 YO LA TENGO Autumn Sweater
12 RADIOHEAD Let Down
13 NICK CAVE AND THE BAD SEEDS Into My Arms
14 PORTISHEAD All Mine
15 PULP Help the Aged
16 SMOG Ex-Con
17 LOS FABULOSOS CADILLACS Calaveras y Diablitos
18 SPIRITUALIZED I Think I'm in Love
19 JANET JACKSON Got ‘Till Is Gone
20 YO LA TENGO One PM Again
nathaniel

than.anderson@gmail.com


Aug 2nd, 2007 - 5:05 AM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Albums

1) Radiohead - OK Computer
2) Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen We are Floating in Space
3) Chemical Brothers- Dig Your Own Hole
4) The Verve - Urban Hymns
5) Supergrass - In It for the Money
6) Cornershop - When I was Born for the 7th Time
7) Blur - Blur
8) Roni Size and Reprazent - New Forms
9) Texas - White on Blonde
10) Gorky's Zygotic Mynci - Barafundle
11) Sleater Kinney - Dig Me Out
12) The Prodigy - The Fat of the Land
13) Daft Punk - Homework
14) David Holmes - Let's Get Killed
15) Gene - Drawn to the Deep End
16) Missy Elliott - Supa Dupa Fly
17) The Sea and Cake - The Fawn
18) Bjork - Homogenic
19) Robbie Williams - Life Thru a Lens
20) Finlay Quaye - Maverick a Strike

Songs

1) The Verve - Bittersweet Symphony
2) Missy Elliott - Sock it 2 Me
3) Blur - Beetlebum
4) Daft Punk - Around the World
5) Roy Davis Jr. - Gabriel
6) Rosie Gaines - Closer than Close
7) Pulp - Help the Aged
8) Bjork - Bachelorette
9) Chemical Brothers - Block Rockin' Beats
10) Radiohead - Paranoid Android
11) Notorious BIG - Mo Money, Mo Problems
12) Supergrass - Richard III
13) Double 99 - RIP Groove
14) The Verve - The Drugs Don't Work
15) All Saints - Never Ever
16) Embrace - All You Good Good People
17) Belle and Sebastian - Lazy Line Painter Jane
18) Finlay Quaye - Even After All
19) Ultra Naté - Free
20) Roni Size - Share the Fall
Mitchell Stirling

Mitchellstirling@gmail.com


Aug 2nd, 2007 - 11:14 AM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

This is easily the best year of the decade in both albums and songs in my eyes. Makes it even harder to do justice to all the great music. Will get mine in a lot earlier this month!
nicolas



Aug 2nd, 2007 - 11:19 AM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

yes, it's a good year, but 98 and to a lesser extent 99 are big years too
Torsten

TorstenSteiger@web.de


Aug 2nd, 2007 - 3:19 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

01. Bob Dylan - Time out of mind
02. Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds - Boatman's call
03. Portishead - Portishead
04. Snapcase - Progression through unlearning
05. Björk - Homogenic
06. Tindersticks - Curtains
07. Roni Size & Reprazent - New forms
08. Deftones - Around the fur
09. Missy (Misdemeanor) Elliott - Supa dupa fly
10. Grandaddy - Under the western freeway
11. Ron Sexsmith - Other songs
12. Built to Spill - Perfect from now on
13. Van Morrison - Healing game
14. Laika - Sounds of the satellites
15. John Fogerty - Blue moon swamp
16. Sofa Surfers - Transit
17. Live - Secret Samadhi
18. Depeche Mode - Ultra
19. Karate - In place of real insight
20. Blur - Blur

Did not have '97 in mind being such a good year. It hurts to not include:

21. Incubus - Science
22. Pavement - Brighten the corners
23. Fu Manchu - Action is go
24. Travis - Good feeling
25. Cornershop - When I was born for the 7th time
casey r dubya



Aug 2nd, 2007 - 11:34 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

I'm actually a little dissapointed with 97. Ten years later I feel exactly the same as 07.

1) Spiritualized -Ladies and Gentlemen We're Floating in Space
2) Teenage Fanclub- Songs From Northern Britian
3) Radio- OK Computer
4) Sleater Kinney- Dig Me Out
5) Robbie Williams- Life Through the Lens
6) Mansun -Attack of the Green Lantern
7) Blur- s/t
8) Gorky's Zygotic Mynci- Barafundle
9) Save Ferris -It Means Everything
10)the Squirrel Nut Zippers- Hot
Jonah



Aug 2nd, 2007 - 11:38 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Hey... does anybody know if all of the songs on the soundtrack to Lost Highway were original songs made for that album? I don't have my collection of old CD inserts handy.

I'll try to lay off the obscure music questions for now.
Jonah



Aug 3rd, 2007 - 1:32 AM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Ooops, take a 1997 album off my list. Looks like SP's Adore was a 1998 album. I have like 7 albums for 1997! What a lame album year for me!
John



Aug 3rd, 2007 - 1:32 AM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Wow, what a great year for music. I can't say for sure but I don't think there has been a better one since. I think those top 6 albums would rank as some of my tops of all-time. Just like I said last month with Tupac- Wu-Tang Forever would be a classic if they made it a single album.

Albums:

1. Radiohead- OK Computer
2. Elliott Smith- Either/Or
3. Dandy Warhols- Come Down
4. Third Eye Blind- ST
5. Wu Tang Clan- Forever
6. Wyclef Jean- The Carnival
7. Jayhawks- Sound of Lies
8. Notorious BIG- Life After Death
9. Green Day- Nimrod
10 Built To Spill- Perfect From Now On
11 Verve- Urban Hymns
12 Spiritualized- Ladies and Gentlemen...
13 Cornershop- When I was Born For the 7th Time
14 Brian Jonestown Massacre- Give it Back
15 Chemical Brothers- Dig Your Own Hole
16 Pavement- Brighten the Corners
17 Switchfoot- Legend of Chin
18 Puff Daddy- No Way Out
19 Daft Punk- Homework
20 Bob Dylan- Time Out of Mind

Songs:

1. Wyclef- Apocalypse
2. Radiohead- Paranoid Android
3. Elliott Smith- Angeles
4. Wu Tang Clan- Triumph
5. Notorious BIG- Hypnotize
6. Cornershop- Brimful of Asha
7. Dandy Warhols- Not if You Were the Last Junkie on Earth
8. Guided By Voices- I am a Tree
9. Radiohead- No Surprises
10 Third Eye Blind- God of Wine
11 Wu Tang Clan- For Heavens Sake
12 Beta Band- Dry the Rain
13 Elliott Smith- Miss Misery
14 White Town- Your Woman
15 Wyclef- Guantanamera
16 Verve- Bittersweet Symphony
17 Third Eye Blind- Motorcycle Drive-by
18 Pavement- Stereo
19 Jayhawks- Trouble
20 Built To Spill- I Would Hurt a Fly
21 Chemical Brothers- Block Rockin Beats
22 Dandy Warhols- Everyday Should Be a Holiday
23 Elliott Smith- Between the Bars
24 Matthew Sweet- Where You Get Love
25 Notorious BIG- Mo Money Mo Problems
26 Radiohead- Exit Music (For a Film)
27 Verve- Sonnet
28 Yo La Tengo- Little Honda
29 Oasis- D'Ya Know What I Mean
30 Daft Punk- Around the World
Vgrd



Aug 3rd, 2007 - 12:04 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Albums:

1. Spiritualized – Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space
2. Nick Cave – The Boatman’s Call
3. Radiohead – OK Computer
4. Prefab Sprout – Andromeda Heights
5. Built To Spill – Perfect From Now On
6. Company Flow – Funcrusher Plus
7. Labradford – Mi Media Naranja
8. Swell – Too Many Days Without Thinking
9. Björk - Homogenic
10. Jim White – Wrong Eyed Jesus
11. Daft Punk – Homework
12. Erykah Badu – Baduizm
13. Mogwai – Young Team
14. Roni Size Reprazent – New Forms
15. Bob Dylan – Time Out Of Mind
16. Jackie Leven – Fairytales For Hard Men
17. Camp Lo – Uptown Saturday Night
18. Notorious BIG – Life After Death
19. Foo Fighters – The Colour And The Shape
20. Pavement – Brighten The Corners
21. Portishead – Portishead
22. The Jayhawks – Sound Of Lies
23. Ween – The Mollusk
24. Biosphere - Substrata
25. Elliott Smith – Either Or
26. Yo La Tengo – I Can Hear The Heart Beating As One
27. Martyr – Hopeless Hopes
28. Eric Matthews – Lateness Of The Hour
29. Deftones – Around The Fur
30. Will Oldham – Joya

Songs:

1. Wu-Tang Clan – Triumph
2. Radiohead – Paranoid Android
3. Bran Van 3000 – Drinking In L.A.
4. Prefab Sprout – Andromeda Heights
5. Erykah Badu – On & On
6. Roni Size – Brown Paper Bag
7. Nick Cave – Are You The One That I’ve Been Waiting For
8. The Verve – Bitter Sweet Symphony
9. Björk - Joga
10. Chemical Brothers – Block Rockin’ Beats
11. Jim White – Still Waters
12. Daft Punk – Around The World
13. The Jayhawks – The Man Who Loved Life
14. Beenie Man – Who Am I?
15. Foo Fighters - Everlong
16. Janet Jackson – Got Til’ Its Gone
17. Jackie Leven - Poortoun
18. Tindersticks – Rented Rooms
19. Lambchop – Your Fucking Sunny Day
20. Ben Folds Five – Battle Of Who Could Care Less
21. Teenage Fanclub – Ain’t That Enough
22. Erykah Badu - Tyrone
23. Elliott Smith – Between The Bars
24. Supergrass – Sun Hits The Sky
25. Robert Wyatt – Free Will And Testament
26. Jungle Brothers - Brain
27. All Saints – Never Ever
28. Ben Folds Five - Brick
29. Helium – Leon’s Space Song
30. Oblivians – Live The Life

I'll cite ol' blue eyes on this one - "It was a very good year".
Jonah



Aug 4th, 2007 - 5:35 AM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

I do much better with songs for this year, thanks to a lot of EP releases.

1. Beta Band - Dry the Rain
2. Radiohead - Subteranean Homesick Alien
3. Belle and Sebastian - Lazy Lane Painter Jane
4. Radiohead - Lucky
5. Radiohead - Paranoid Android
6. Radiohead - No Surprises
7. Belle and Sebastian - Belle and Sebastian
8. Beta Band - Dog's Got a Bone
9. Radiohead - The Tourist
10. Radiohead - Let Down
11. Radiohead - Karma Police
12. The Verve - Bittersweet Symphony
13. Daft Punk - Around the World
14. Stereolab - Miss Modular
15. nine inch nails - The Perfect Drug
16. Belle and Sebastian - The State That I Am In
17. Beta Band - B + A
18. Radiohead - Exit Music (For a Film)
19. Ben Folds Five - Battle of Who Could Care Less
20. Ben Folds Five - Fair
Eddo

reagan.j@paradise.net.nz


Aug 5th, 2007 - 4:28 AM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Albums:

1. Radiohead - OK Computer
2. The Verve - Urban Hymns
3. The Prodigy - The Fat of the Land
4. Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death
5. Supergrass - In It for the Money
6. Foo Fighters - The Colour and the Shape
7. Deftones - Around the Fur
8. Jurassic 5 - Jurassic 5

Songs:

1. Radiohead - Paranoid Android
2. The Verve - Bitter Sweet Symphony
3. Radiohead -Karma Police
4. Blur - Song 2
5. Cornershop - Brimful of Asha
6. The Verve - The Drugs Don't Work
7. Radiohead - No Surprises
8. Radiohead - Climbing Up the Walls
9. Radiohead - Lucky
10. The Verve - Lucky Man
11. Foo Fighters - Everlong
12. The Prodigy - Smack My Bitch Up
13. Notorious B.I.G. - Hypnotize
14. Elliott Smith - Miss Misery
15. Foo Fighters - Monkey Wrench
16. Notorious B.I.G. - Mo Money Mo Problems
17. Massive Attack - Risingson
18. Janet Jackson - Got 'Til It's Gone
19. Oasis - D'You Know What I Mean
20. Supergrass - Richard III
Toni



Aug 5th, 2007 - 9:42 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Albums:

1) Blur - Blur
2) Radiohead - Ok Computer
3) Oasis - Be Here Now
4) The Verve - Urban Hymns
5) Shania Twain - Come On Over

Songs:

1) Blur - Song 2
2) Blur - Beetlebum
3) The Verve - Lucky Man
4) Oasis - All Around the World
5) Radiohead - Electioneering
6) Smash Mouth - Walking on the Sun
7) Radiohead - Karma Police
8) The Verve - Bitter Sweet Symphony
9) Radiohead - Let Down
10) Blur - On Your Own
11) Blur - Look Inside America
12) Oasis - D'You Know What I Mean?
13) Radioheead - Paranoid Android
14) Blur - You're So Great
15) Chumbawamba - Tubthumping
16) All Saints - Never Ever
17) Blur - Moving On
18) Cake - The Distance
19) Radiohead - No Surprises
20) Blur - M.O.R
21) Oasis - Stand By Me
22) Oasis - Don't Go Away
23) U2 - Discotheque
24) Oasis - It's Getting Better Man
25) Foo Fighters - Everlong
Howlin' Andrew



Aug 5th, 2007 - 9:44 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Albums
1) Radiohead - OK Computer
2) Shania Twain - Come On Over
3) The Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole
4) Prodigy - The Fat Of The Land
5) Pavement - Brighten The Corners
6) The Verve - Urban Hymns
7) Buena Vista Social Club - Buena Vista Social Club
8) Spiritualized - Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space
9) Bjork - Homogenic
10) Company Flow - Funcrusher Plus
11) Oasis - Be Here Now
12) Daft Punk - Homework
13) Travis - Good Feeling
14) Blur - Blur
15) Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind
16) The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death
17) Foo Fighters - The Colour And The Shape
18) Whiskeytown - Stranger's Almanac
19) Old 97s - Too Far To Care
20) Ely Guerra - Pa'morirse De Amor

Songs
1) Radiohead - Paranoid Android
2) Blur - Song 2
3) The Verve - Bittersweet Symphony
4) Daft Punk - Da Funk
5) Green Day - Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life)
6) Daft Punk - Around The World
7) Radiohead - No Surprises
8) Whiskeytown - Excuse Me While I Break My Own Heart Tonight
9) The Chemical Brothers - Block Rockin’ Beats
10) Pavement - Shady Lane
11) Foo Fighters - Everlong
12) Missy Elliott - The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)
13) DJ Shadow - High Noon
14) The Notorious B.I.G. ft. Puff Daddy & Mase - Mo Money Mo Problems
15) Natalie Imbruglia - Torn
16) The Notorious B.I.G. - Hypnotize
17) Shania Twain - You're Still The One
18) Oasis - Don't Go Away
19) Bob Dylan - Not Dark Yet
20) Bjork - Bachelorette
Paul Manusama

pboywhat@yahoo.com


Aug 6th, 2007 - 5:41 AM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Albums

1) Bjork – Homogenic
2) Wu-Tang Clan – Wu-Tang Forever
3) Notorious B.I.G. – Life After Death
4) Elliott Smith – Either/Or
5) Latyrx – The Album
6) Jay-Z – Vol. 1: In My Lifetime
7) Company Flow – Funcrusher Plus
8) Yo La Tengo – I Can Hear the Heart Beating As One
9) Radiohead – OK Computer (placed strategically low- we all know it's going to be #1 anyway)
10) Puff Daddy and the Family – No Way Out
11) Oasis – Be Here Now
12) Camp Lo – Uptown Saturday Night



Songs

1) Wu-Tang Clan – Triumph
2) Radiohead – No Surprises
3) Radiohead – Airbag
4) Bjork – Joga
5) Radiohead – Paranoid Android
6) Radiohead – Let Down
7) Notorious B.I.G. – Kick In the Door
8) Radiohead – Karma Police
9) Wu-Tang Clan – Reunited
10) Latyrx – Lady Don’t Tek No
11) Bjork – 5 Years
12) Jay-Z – Streets Is Watching
13) Puff Daddy feat. Notorious B.I.G. and Busta Rhymes – Victory
14) Bjork – Bachelorette
15) Elliott Smith – Angeles
16) Elliott Smith – Say Yes
17) Puff Daddy feat. Lox, Lil’ Kim and Notorious B.I.G. – It’s All About the Benjamins
18) Bjork – Alarm Call
19) Radiohead – Exit Music (For a Film)
20) Aphex Twin – Flim

21) Bjork – Hunter
22) Paul McCartney – Calico Skies
23) Notorious B.I.G. – I Got a Story to Tell
24) Notorious B.I.G. – Hypnotize
25) Janet Jackson feat. Q-Tip – Got ‘Til It’s Gone
26) Wu-Tang Clan – It’s Yours
Pomtidom

pom@tidom.org


Aug 6th, 2007 - 12:59 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

1) Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind
2) The Verve - Urban Hymns
3) Daft Punk - Homework
4) Elliot Smith - Either/Or
5) Björk - Homogenic

1) The Verve - Bittersweet Symphony
2) Chumbawamba - Tubthumping
3) Daft Punk - Around the World
4) Foo Fighters - Everlong
5) Hanson - Mmmbop
Greg

grmaurer03@yahoo.com


Aug 6th, 2007 - 3:53 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Albums

1. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - The Boatman's Call
2. Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One
3. Future Bible Heroes - Memories of Love
4. Kool Keith - Sex Style
5. Whiskeytown - Strangers Almanac
6. Van Morrison - The Healing Game
7. Shania Twain - Come On Over
8. Pulsars - s/t
9. Smog - Red Apple Falls
10. John Scofield - A Go Go
11. Guided by Voices - Mag Earwhig!
12. Radiohead - OK Computer
13. Ben Folds Five - Whatever and Ever Amen
14. Janet Jackson - The Velvet Rope
15. The Divine Comedy - A Short Album About Love
16. Daft Punk - Homework
17. Kim Richey - Bitter Sweet
18. Teenage Fanclub - Songs from Northern Britain
19. Oasis - Be Here Now
20. Mouse on Mars - Autoditacker
21. The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death
22. Wu-Tang Clan - Wu-Tang Forever
23. Spice Girls - Spiceworld
24. Suede - Coming Up
25. Dimmu Borgir - Enthrone Darkness Triumphant
They Call Me The Swede



Aug 6th, 2007 - 11:35 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Albums:
1. Radiohead - OK Computer
2. Strapping Young Lad - City
3. Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk
4. Devin Townsend - Ocean Machine: Biomech
5. Bjork - Homogenic
6. Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death
7. The Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole
8. Wu-Tang Clan - Wu-Tang Forever
9. Hypocrisy - The Final Chapter
10. Sigh - Hail Horror Hail
11. Blur - Blur
12. In Flames - Whoracle
13. Daft Punk - Homework
14. Stratovarius - Visions
15. Children of Bodom - Something Wild
16. Aerosmith - Nine Lives
17. Busta Rhymes - When Disaster Strikes...
18. Goldfinger - Hang-Ups
19. Fu Manchu - The Action Is Go
20. Prodigy - The Fat of the Land
Pedro



Aug 8th, 2007 - 2:24 AM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Albums:
1.Homogenic, Bjork
2.Baduizm, Erykah Badu
3.OK Computer, Radiohead
4.Supa Dupa Fly, Missy Elliott
5.Urban Hymns, The Verve
6.Life After Death, Notorious BIG

Songs:
1."Paranoid Android", Radiohead
2."Bittersweet Symphony", The Verve
3."Bachelorette", Bjork
4."Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Can See", Busta Rhymes
5."Smack My Bitch Up", Prodigy
6."No Surprises", Radiohead
7."Karma Police", Radiohead
8."Sock It To Me", Missy Elliott
9."On and On", Erykah Badu
10."Got Til It's Gone", Janet Jackson
11."Mo Money Mo Problems", Notorious BIG
12."Gone Til November", Wycleaf Jean
Richard

riched6@hotmail.com


Aug 8th, 2007 - 2:17 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Just quietly can everyone giving their lists for year please look outside the square of Radiohead, Blur and the Verve. Anyways.

Albums:
1)Savage Garden - Savage Garden
2)Oasis - Be Here Now
3)The Offspring - Ixnay on the Hombre
4)The Prodigy - The Fat of the Land
5)Radiohead - OK Computer
6)Aqua - Aquarium
7)The Verve - Urban Hymns
8)Blink 182 - Dude Ranch
9)La Bouche - All Mixed Up
10)Green Day - Nimrod

Songs:
1)The Verve - Bittersweet Symphony
2)To The Moon & Back - Savage Garden
3)Gone Away - The Offspring
4)D'You Know What I Mean - Oasis
5)Song 2 - Blur
6)Semi-Charmed Life - Third Eye Blind
7)As Long As You Love Me - Backstreet Boys
8)Hanson - Mmbop
9)Chumbawumba - Tubthumping
10)Torn - Natalie Imbruglia
11)Barbie Girl - Aqua
12)Paranoid Android - Radiohead
13)Time of Your Life - Green Day
14)Be My Lover - La Bouche
15)Dammit - Blink 182
16)Breathe - The Prodigy
17)Who Do You Think You Are - Spice Girls
18)Dont Speak - No Doubt
19)Everybody - Backstreet Boys
20)Everytime You Cry - Human Nature
Jonah



Aug 8th, 2007 - 4:05 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Song list update:

Sorry about this

could you please points to Savage Garden's "I Want You" by putting it at number 13 on my song list and move everything else down? Thanks.
Zé



Aug 12th, 2007 - 3:24 AM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Albuns:


1 - Dimmu Borgir - Enthrone Darkness Triumphant
2 - Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk
3 - Obituary - Back from the Dead
4 - Dismember - Death Metal
5 - Morbid Angel - Formulas Fatal to the Flesh
6 - Hypocrisy - The Final Chapter
7 - Bruce Dickinson - Accident Of Birth
8 - Gamma Ray - Somewhere Out in Space
9 - Nightwish - Angels Fall First
10 - Symphony X - The Divine Wings of Tragedy
11 - In Flames - Whoracle
12 - Rhapsody - Legendary Tales
13 - Hammerfall - Glory to the Brave
14 - Stratovarius - Visions
15 - Sodom - 'Til Death Do Us Unite
16 - Megadeth - Cryptic Writings
17 - Malevolent Creation - In Cold Blood
18 - Children of Bodom - Something Wild
19 - Dream Theater - Falling Into Infinity

1 -
1 -
Fred



Aug 12th, 2007 - 10:53 AM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Ze!

Give us a few songs! I am starting to discover some metal but whole albums is too much for me...please?
davide



Aug 12th, 2007 - 11:41 AM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

albums
1. Radiohead - OK Computer
2. Blur - Blur
3. Green Day - Nimrod
4. Foo Fighters - The Colour And The Shape
5. Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One

songs
1. radiohead - no surprises
2. radiohead - paranoid android
3. deftones - be quiet and drive (far away)
4. blur - song 2
5. green day - hitchin' a ride
6. yo la tengo - stockholm syndrome
7. portishead - all mine
8. radiohead - karma police
9. depeche mode - useless
10. foo fighters - see you
11. nofx - all outta angst
12. green day - good riddance (time of your life)
13. radiohead - airbag
14. chisel - the town crusher
15. prodigy - breathe
16. foo fighters - monkey wrench
17. oasis - stand by me
18. blur - beetlebum
19. aphex twin - come to daddy
20. the charlatans - how high
JohnnyNix



Aug 12th, 2007 - 7:55 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Albums:
1. Morrissey: Maladjusted
2. Mansun: Attack Of The Grey Lantern
3. Comet Gain: Sneaky
4. Spiritualized: Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space
5. Bob Dylan: Time Out Of Mind
6. The Verve: Urban Hymns
7. Daft Punk: Homework
8. Primal Scream: Vanishing Point
9. Smog: Red Apple Falls
10. Blur: Blur

Songs:
1. Morrissey: Trouble Loves Me
2. Mansun: Mansun’s Only Love Song
3. The Verve: The Drugs Don’t Work
4. The Verve: Sonnet
5. Mansun: Taxloss
6. Mansun: The Chad Who Loved Me
7. Morrissey: Papa Jack
8. Mansun: You, Who Do You Hate?
9. Morrissey: Alma Matters
10. Spiritualized: Cool Waves
11. Primal Scream: Star
12. Spiritualized: Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space
13. Comet Gain: Strength
14. Primal Scream: Kowalski
15. Morrissey: Roy’s Keen
16. Hurricane No. 1: Step Into My World
17. Bob Dylan: Not Dark Yet
18. Hanson: Mmmm Bop
19. Spiritualized: Come Together
20. Bob Dylan: Love Sick
21. Blur: You’re So Great
22. Blur: Song II
23. The Verve: Lucky Man
24. Morrissey: He Cried
25. James: She’s A Star
LonesomePanda



Aug 12th, 2007 - 10:31 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Albums

1 Elliott Smith Either Or
2 Radiohead Ok Computer
3 Foo Fighters The Colour and the Shape
4 Incubus SCIENCE
5 The Chemical Brothers Dig Your Own Hole

Songs

1 Elliott Smith Between the Bars
2 Foo Fighters Everlong
3 Elliott Smith Angeles
4 Bjork Bachelorette
5 Blur Song 2
6 Chemical Brothers Block Rockin' Beats
7 Elliott Smith Pictures of me
8 The Prodigy Smack my bitch up
9 Radiohead Karma Police
10 Deftones My Own Summer (shove it)
11 The Chemical Brothers The Private Psychedelic Real
12 Radiohead Paranoid Android
13 Elliott Smith Miss Misery
14 Daft Punk Da Funk
15 Foo Fighters Hey Johnny Park !
Zé



Aug 13th, 2007 - 1:08 AM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Songs:

here are some good songs Fred, i'll try to don't repeat bands.

1 - Mourning Palace(Dimmu Borgir)
2 - Lake Bodom (Children Of Bodom)
3 - The Loss And Curse Of Revere(Emperor)
4 - The Divine Wings of Tragedy(symphony x)
4 - The Final Chapter(Hypocrisy)
5 - Trust (Megadeth)
6 - The Kiss of Judas(Stratovarius)
7 - By The Light(Obituary)
8 - Beyond the Black Hole(Gamma Ray)
9 - Man of Sorrows(Bruce Dickinson)
10 - Mountains of Might(Immortal)
nicolas



Aug 13th, 2007 - 9:44 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

I’m going on vacation tommorow (real vacation : no computer, so I’ll make it quick (quite unusual for me)


BRACKET 37

1. The Bee Gees, “Stayin’ Alive” (1977) ****
2. Buddy Holly, “That’ll Be the Day” (1957) ***
3. Frankie Goes to Hollywood, “Relax” (1983) ***
4. Chubby Checker, “The Twist” (1960) ***

Sorry Buddy, but Stayin’ Alive brings me on the dancefloor everytime I hear it at a party, as it is for Relax, to a lesser extent. The twist is a little bit boring and repetitive (I prefer Twist again)


BRACKET 38

1. The Jackson 5, “I Want You Back” (1969) *****
2. The Jimi Hendrix Experience, “Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)” (1968) *****
3. The Velvet Underground, “Waiting for the Man” (1967) *****
4. Chic, “Good Times” (1979) ****


Excelllllent bracket! Twice as good as the previous bracket. I had the same dilemna as Anthony for the 2 first, so I put The Jacksons ahead for balance (hope I’ll sleep well tonight),
Waiting for the man is a good Lou Reed song, and Chic is funky and danceable (and one of the first sampled songs in history)


BRACKET 39

1. Bruce Springsteen, “Thunder Road” (1975) ***** : the first song I ever covered and recorded when I was 16. at that time, I only knew the live version (in the box set Live 1975-85), with only Bruce singing, a piano and his harmonica at the end (in place of the saxophone), stripped of all the instrumentation he added on the album. I still don’t know which version I prefer, for the album one is excellent too. The lyrics about love and escape are fabulous, and the music matches them :the song with this chord progression never looks backwards, there is no verse/chorus.
2. David Bowie, “Heroes” (1977) *** : same subject as Thunder Road, but far from being my favorite Bowie song.
3. Simon and Garfunkel, “Bridge Over Troubled Water” (1970)*** : disappointed. I acknowledge that Johnny Cash’s cover of that song was (contrary to One) quite unappropriate
4. The Rapture, “House of Jealous Lovers” (2002)** : What happened to critics in 2002 ? As my grandfather would have said, this guy yells as if somebody had stepped on his foot.



BRACKET 40

1. The Rolling Stones, “(I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction” (1965) ***** : Easy win. You don’t tire of that song. Have you noticed the bass line is weird (awkward ?)
2. Dr. Dre featuring Snoop Doggy Dogg, “Nuthin’ But a ‘G’ Thang” (1993) *** : great music, great funky bass line, but the lyrics are nuthin’ but misogynous shit.
3.“He’s a Rebel” (1962)*** : funny to listen to the 2 rap songs then the innocence of that song... ages ago. Sounds like Abba meeting spector back in ’62.
4. Missy Misdemeanor Elliott, “Work It” (2002) ** *: Same thing for the lyrics, rap girl trying to sound as lewd as the G boys, what a pity...And the production doesn’t make things better. At least, Dre can make a record sound.
Michel



Aug 14th, 2007 - 8:25 AM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Albums :

1. Björk - Homogenic
2. Asian Dub Foundation - R.A.F.I.
3. Radiohead - Ok computer
4. Prodigy - The fat of the land
5. Tindersticks - Curtains
6. The Dandy Warhols - Come down
7. Elliott Smith - Either/or
8. Portishead - Portishead
9. Mendelson - L'avenir est devant
10. Miossec - Baiser
11. Forest for the trees - Forest for the trees
12. Sixteen Horsepower - Low estate
13. Swell - Too many days without thinking
14. Blur - Blur
15. U2 - Pop
16. Death in Vegas - Dead elvis
17. Yo la tengo - I can hear the heart beat as one
18. Jonathan Fire Eater - Wolf songs for lambs
19. Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out
20. Bob Dylan - Time Out of Mind


Songs :

1. The Beta Band - Dry the rain
2. Blur - Song 2
3. Björk - Bachelorette
4. The Chemical Brothers - The Private Psychedelic Reel
5. Prodigy - Diesel power
6. Radiohead - Karma police
7. Tindersticks - Bathtime
8. The Chemical Brothers - Block Rockin' Beats
9. Yo La Tengo - Autumn Sweater
10. Björk - Hunter
11. Prodigy - Serial Killer
12. Aphex Twin - Come to Daddy
13. Cornershop - Brimful of Asha
14. Bentley Rhythm Ace - Bentley's Gonna Sort You Out
15. Elliott Smith - 2:45 a.m.
16. Swell - The trip
17. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Into My Arms
18. The Beta Band - I Know
19. Bran Van 3000 - Drinking in L.A.
20. The Verve - Bitter Sweet Symphony
nicolas



Aug 14th, 2007 - 12:17 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Albums :

1 Robert Wyatt - Shleep
2 Radiohead - OK Computer
3 Buena Vista Social Club - Buena Vista Social Club
4 Dick Annegarn - Approche-toi
5 The Divine Comedy - A Short Album about Love
6 Björk - Homogenic
7 Grandaddy - Under the Western freeway
8 Bob Dylan - Time Out Of Mind
9 Roni Size Reprazent - New Forms
10 Ron Sexsmith - Other Songs
11 Rubén Gonzalez - Introducing
12 Kelly Joe Phelps - Roll Away The Stone
13 Supergrass - In It For the Money
14 Daft Punk - Homework
15 The Verve - Urban Hymns
16 Ballistic Brothers - Rude System
17 Yo La Tengo - I can hear the heart beating as one
18 Lhasa - La Llorana
19 Bob Brozman & Led Kaapaana - Kika Kila Meets Ki Ho'alu
20 Long John Hunter - Swinging from the Rafters
Keith



Aug 16th, 2007 - 9:11 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

OK computer - Radiohead
I can hear the heart beating as one - Yo La Tengo
Time out of mind - Bob Dylan
The boatman's call - Nick Cave
Either/Or - Elliott Smith
Keith



Aug 16th, 2007 - 9:13 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Sorry, forgot to number them. They are listed in order 1 to 5
Miguel



Aug 17th, 2007 - 12:17 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Albums

1. GORKY'S ZYGOTIC MYNCI: Barafundle
2. YO LA TENGO: I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One
3. BUENA VISTA SOCIAL CLUB: Buena Vista Social Club
4. NICK CAVE & THE BAD SEEDS: The Boatman's Call
5. ELLIOT SMITH: Either/Or
6. PORTISHEAD: Portishead
7. TEENAGE FANCLUB: Songs from Northern Britain
8. SUPER FURRY ANIMALS: Radiator
9. FLEETWOOD MAC: The Dance
10. TINDERSTICKS: Curtains
11. PAUL SIMON: Songs from The Capeman
12. EVA CASSIDY: Eva by Heart
13. LAMBCHOP: Thriller
14. IVY: Apartment Life
15. PAUL MCCARTNEY: Flaming Pie
16. EVA CASSIDY: Live at Blues Alley
17. RICHARD THOMPSON & DANNY THOMPSON: Industry
18. HOLIDAY: Café Reggio
19. VAN MORRISON: The Healing Game
20. BLUE RODEO: Tremolo


Songs

1. YO LA TENGO: Sugarcube
2. GORKY'S ZYGOTIC MYNCI: Starmoonsun
3. CORNERSHOP: Brimful of Asha
4. YO LA TENGO: Little Honda
5. LAMBCHOP: Your Fucking Sunny Day
6. TINDERSTICKS: Another Night In
7. BUENA VISTA SOCIAL CLUB: Chan, Chan
8. PAUL SIMON: Adios hermanos
9. GORKY'S ZYGOTIC MYNCI: The Barafundle Bumbler
10. THE VERVE: Bitter Sweet Symphony
11. PORTISHEAD: Cowboys
12. BUENA VISTA SOCIAL CLUB: El cuarto de Tula
13. TEENAGE FANCLUB: Start Again
14. GORKY'S ZYGOTIC MYNCI: Heywood Lane
15. JILL SOBULE: Happy Town
16. TEENAGE FANCLUB: Ain’t That Enough
17. ELLIOT SMITH: Between the Bars
18. PORTISHEAD: All Mine
19. SUPER FURRY ANIMALS: Torra Fy Ngwallt Yn Hir
20. NICK CAVE & THE BAD SEEDS: Brompton Oratory


My favourite Spanish albums of 1997

1. TELEFILME: Pocket Horror Show
2. MIGALA: Diciembre 3 A.M.
3. LA BUENA VIDA: Soidemersol
4. SR. CHINARRO: El porqué de mis peinados
5. LOS FRESONES REBELDES: ¡Es que no hay manera!
6. JAVIER BERGIA: Noche infinita
7. JR.: Jr.
8. MANTA RAY & CORCOBADO: Diminuto cielo
9. KIKO VENENO: Punta Paloma
10. VAINICA DOBLE: Carbono 14
11. CHUCHO: 78
12. SUPERELVIS: Having Fun on Stage


And my favourite compilation of the year: PENGUIN CAFE ORCHESTRA: Preludes, Airs & Yodels
LonesomePanda



Aug 17th, 2007 - 11:42 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Well if it is still possible I would like to put :
IAM - L'ecole du micro d'argent as the 2nd best album of the year... it's probably the greatest french album of the decade, but as there aren't much french album in the site, I have forgotten it !
Mo

mauricevdb@yahoo.com


Aug 18th, 2007 - 10:57 AM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

1. Radiohead - OK computer
2. Spiritualized - Ladies and Getlemen We Are Floating in Space
3. The Verve - Urban Hymns
4. Buena Vista Social Club - Buena Vista Social Club
5. Bjork - Homogenic

1. Radiohead - Let down
2. Radiohead - Exit Music (For A Film)
3. The Beta Band - Dry the Rain
4. Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space
5. Radiohead - No surprises
6. James - Tomorrow
7. Radiohead - Paranoid android
8. Verve - Bitter Sweet Symphony
9. Blur - Song 2
10. Bjork - Bachelorette
11. White Town - Your Woman
12. Radiohead - Lucky
13. Chemical brothers - the private psychedelic reel
14. Spiritualized - Broken Heart
15. Radiohead - Karma ploice
16. Chumbawamba - Tubthumping
17. Smash Mouth - Walkin on the sun
18. Daft Punk - Around the World
19. Prodigy - Smack My Bitch Up
20. Hanson - Mmmbop
dexternico

ajgrn1@aol.com


Aug 18th, 2007 - 12:58 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

TOP 10 ALBUMS OF 1997

1) BJORK Homogenic
2) THE PRODIGY The Fat of the land
3) PORTISHEAD Portishead
4) CHEMICAL BROTHERS Dig your own hole
5) SPIRITUALIZED Ladies and gentlemen we are floating in space
6) SUPER FURRY ANIMALS Radiator
7) BLUR Blur
8) STEREOLAB Dots and loops
9) PRIMAL SCREAM Vanishing point
10) DAFT PUNK Homework


TOP 25 SONGS OF 1997

1) VERVE Bittersweet symphony
2) RADIOHEAD Paranoid android
3) ORBITAL Satan (Industry standard mix)
4) THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS The private psychedelic reel
5) VERVE Lucky man
6) PRIMAL SCREAM Kowalski
7) MASSIVE ATTACK Risingson
8) BLUR Song 2
9) RADIOHEAD No surprises
10) OASIS D'you know what I mean?

11) RONI SIZE / REPRAZENT Brown paper bag
12) APHEX TWIN Come to daddy
13) BJORK Joga
14) PAVEMENT Stereo
15) UNDERWORLD Moaner
16) PULP Help the aged
17) CORNERSHOP Brimful of Asha
18) FOO FIGHTERS Everlong
19) SPIRITUALIZED I think I'm in love
20) THE PRODIGY Smack my bitch up
21) DEPECHE MODE Home
22) THE ORB Asylum
23) DEPECHE MODE It's no good
24) THE FUGEES ft. A TRIBE CALLED QUEST & BUSTA RHYMES Rumble in the jungle
25) SUPER FURRY ANIMALS Herman loves Pauline
Honorio

hbarranco@telefonica.net


Aug 19th, 2007 - 9:03 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Wow, what a year! I really LOVE the songs in my Top Ten!!

ALBUMS:

1. RADIOHEAD “OK Computer” (#5 in my all-time list)
2. BJÖRK “Homogenic”
3. BOB DYLAN “Time Out of Mind”
4. ERYKAH BADU “Baduizm”
5. SPIRITUALIZED “Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space”
6. DEPECHE MODE “Ultra”
7. BUENA VISTA SOCIAL CLUB “Buena Vista Social Club”
8. THE FLAMING LIPS “Zaireeka”
9. ELLIOTT SMITH “Either/Or”
10. NICK CAVE & THE BAD SEEDS “The Boatman’s Call”
11. THE VERVE “Urban Hymns”
12. YO LA TENGO “I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One”
13. THE JAYHAWKS “Sound of Lies”
14. THE PRODIGY “The Fat of the Land”
15. LA BUENA VIDA “Soidemersol”
16. PORTISHEAD “Portishead”
17. WHISKEYTOWN “Stranger’s Almanac”
18. BLUR “Blur”
19. PAUL McCARTNEY “Flaming Pie”
20. STEVE EARLE “El Corazón”
21. PAUL SIMON “Songs from The Capeman”
22. GORKY’S ZYGOTIC MYNCI “Barafundle”
23. THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS “Dig Your Own Hole”
24. BUILT TO SPILL “Perfect From Now On”
25. ROBERT WYATT “Shleep”


SONGS:

1. RADIOHEAD “No Surprises” (#10 in my all-time list)
2. DEPECHE MODE “It’s No Good” (#99)
3. BUENA VISTA SOCIAL CLUB “Chan Chan” (#123)
4. SPIRITUALIZED “Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space” (#138)
5. NICK CAVE & THE BAD SEEDS “Into My Arms” (#188)
6. THE VERVE “The Drugs Don’t Work” (#197)
7. BJÖRK “Bachelorette”
8. BOB DYLAN “Not Dark Yet”
9. RADIOHEAD “Let Down”
10. BJÖRK “Jòga”
11. THE VERVE “Bitter Sweet Symphony”
12. THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS “Block Rockin’ Beats”
13. BLUR “Song 2”
14. ELLIOTT SMITH “Miss Misery”
15. RADIOHEAD “Paranoid Android”
16. THE FLAMING LIPS “Thirty-Five Thousand Years of Despair”
17. THE PRODIGY “Smack My Bitch Up”
18. ERYKAH BADU “On & On”
19. PORTISHEAD “All Mine”
20. DEPECHE MODE “The Bottom Line”
21. OASIS “Stand by Me”
22. YO LA TENGO “Sugarcube”
23. 7 NOTAS 7 COLORES “Con esos ojitos”
24. BOB DYLAN “Love Sick”
25. PAUL McCARTNEY “Calico Skies”
26. ELLIOTT SMITH “Angeles”
27. RADIOHEAD “Exit Music (For a Film)”
28. SPIRITUALIZED “Broken Heart”
29. THE VERVE “Sonnet”
30. CHUCHO “Un ángel turbio”
31. BUILT TO SPILL “Randy Described Eternity”
32. PULP “Help the Aged”
33. THE BETA BAND “Dry the Rain”
34. NICK CAVE & THE BAD SEEDS “People Ain’t No Good”
35. LA BUENA VIDA “Pacífico”
36. WHISKEYTOWN “Excuse Me While I Break My Own Heart Tonight”
37. THE JAYHAWKS “Big Star”
38. ANDRÉS CALAMARO “Flaca”
39. CORNERSHOP “Brimful of Asha”
40. BUENA VISTA SOCIAL CLUB “El cuarto de Tula”
41. PAUL SIMON “Adios Hermanos”
42. MIQUEL GIL “Un silenci”
43. GORKY’S ZYGOTIC MYNCI “Sometimes the Father Is the Son”
44. ROBERT WYATT “Out of Season”
45. DA CAPO “Angel”
46. STEVE EARLE “Taneytown”
47. SPIRITUALIZED “Come Together”
48. DEPECHE MODE “Barrel of a Gun”
49. RADIOHEAD “Karma Police”
50. BJÖRK “All Is Full of Love”

BEST COMPILATION: VARIOUS “September Songs: The Music of Kurt Weill”
Honorio

hbarranco@telefonica.net


Aug 19th, 2007 - 9:06 PM 		My favorite Spanish song of 1997: 7 Notas 7 Colores' "Con esos ojitos"

Spanish hip hop took a long long time to launch properly, but finally did it with 7 Notas 7 Colores (“7 Notes, 7 Colours”) album “Hecho, es simple” (“Done, It’s Simple”). Of course there were a lot of previous experiences but nearly always were amateurish, imitative or disappointing. But the 7 Notas 7 Colores first album, along with 1998 albums as “Grandes Planes” by El Club de los Poetas Violentos (“Big Plans” by The Violent Poets Club) or “Retorno al principio” de Sólo los Solo (“Return to the Beginning” by Only the Only) supposed the cornerstone of a scene that since then grew considerably, achieving probably its peak with the 2000 album “Lujo Ibérico” by La Mala Rodríguez (“Iberian Luxury” by Bad-Girl Rodríguez) that broke the scene into mainstream.
The first single and also the closer song of the album, “Con esos ojitos” (“With Those Eyes”), was probably the best 7N7C offering, with the particular flow and cleverly constructed ego-trip lyrics by MC Mucho Muchacho and the nice instrumental backing courtesy of Dive Dibosso. It goes to show that the sound of the streets is equally valid coming from the New York or the Barcelona suburbs. In Luis Lles words: “From the Barcelona suburbs, 7 Notas 7 Colores made the soundtrack for the life on the border of the hood kids, turning the common people little adventures in stories deserving to be told. Since many rap artists create a fictitious scenario trying to transfer the American reality to everyday Spanish life, it’s surprising the sincerity of the proposal of these boys from El Prat, that resorted to the inventiveness of Hispanic poetry and to a filthy language (but very inspired) for building its rhymes about everything that happened around them, about its yearnings and frustrations, about its desires to escape from a too narrow reality”.



CON ESOS OJITOS
Composers: Mucho Muchacho/Dive Dibosso
Performers: 7 NOTAS 7 COLORES
First release: 1996 (“Con esos ojitos / Puercos” CD-single)
Length: 3’50” (1997 LP version, I’ve chosen this one if only for removing the silly line “sopla mi verga hasta que se me infle un huevo”, “blow to my cock till an egg gets inflated”).


Los cerdos más guarros de barro
narran mi historia como la de un Muchacho
con garras subterráneo,
escurridizo como una mente pachucha de amor
por una linda mujer latina en el micrófono.
Oh no! Viene hacia aquí
y vengo a por ti
y todos ya saben quien va a vencer.
Luzco una mirada del palo
que hijo de puta soy cuando clavo un truco nuevo.
Doblo esquinas con mi pelo afro
y mi espuma sucia, derribo los edificios.
Dios!, mi rollo se sale y no puedes parar a este pollo,
tío, cuando llego con esos ojitos.
Uno, dos,
los que beben de mi jarra y los de la tarra no puedes barrer,
mamón, conmigo error,
con la fuerza cósmica el Muchacho.
Con esos ojitos, tío, con esos ojitos
Tío, con esos ojitos, tío, con esos ojitos
Tío, con esos ojitos, tío, con esos ojitos, con esos ojitos
Tío, con esos ojitos, tío, con esos ojitos

Tu magnífico superhéroe nena,
ni un pájaro ni un avión, no te equivoques,
propulso mi estilo y muévelo,
traigo un caramelo, sabrosón.
Después del show, siempre buenas puntuaciones,
lo que pueden hacer los chicos frescos,
pudran energéticos nena,
he puesto de nuevo esos ojitos,
esos ojitos y zumbándole.
Uno, dos,
mira niño los puercos que dejan sus niños
buscando leña pal fuego,
secuestrados por mi, raptados, mi cohete encendido.
Dime lo que buscas y verás lo que te encuentras,
mi chorro nunca encalla, no acepto mellas,
mamahuevos, toma vitaminas si quieres joder conmigo.

Con esos ojitos, tío, con esos ojitos
Tío, con esos ojitos, con esos ojitos
Tío, con esos ojitos, tío, con esos ojitos, con esos ojitos
Tío, con esos ojitos, tío, con esos ojitos, con esos ojitos
Tío, con esos ojitos, tío, con esos ojitos

Con esos ojitos que todo lo envenenan,
dime cuantas pollas saltaron la valla,
que ya no duermes nunca, eh.
Oye la mierda que he traído, uh,
es giro, inspiro y espiro, tiro, respiro,
tú vas a estar muerto mucho mas tiempo que vivo.
Uh, sí, es él,
ha puesto de nuevo esos ojitos.
Con esos ojitos vengo despacito
bien cerdos, aquí terminan vuestras aventuras,
porque he venido a veros
con esa mirada en el rostro
y algo me dice que la batalla va a ser fiera.
Bien, bien, como lo esperaba,
que ya tienen ganas de terminarlo los compadres a mi vera,
y yo estoy juguetón
y en tu cara mamón
paso al siguiente nivel.
Después ya ves
con tan sólo algunos rasguños leves en la piel nena,
mi vida esta llena de acción
pero no te preocupes por mis huesos que he puesto de nuevo esos ojitos.

Con esos ojitos, tío, con esos ojitos
Tío, con esos ojitos, con esos ojitos
Tío, con esos ojitos, tío, con esos ojitos, con esos ojitos
Tío, con esos ojitos, tío, con esos ojitos, con esos ojitos
Tío, con esos ojitos, tío, con esos ojitos


WITH THOSE EYES (really hard to translate, impossible to know what Spanish slang word relates better to an English slang word; moreover some parts are meaningless even in the original version)

The muddy dirtier pigs
Are telling my story
As an underground clawed Boy,
Slippery as a brain sick of love
For a pretty latin woman on the microphone.
Oh no! He comes over there,
And I’m coming after you
And everybody knows who’s going to win,
I’m wearing a log look
I’m a mother fucker when I nail a new trick,
I turn the corners with my afro
and my dirty foam, I demolish buildings.
God!, my thang’s outstanding and you can’t stop this guy,
man, when I come with those eyes.
One, two,
you can’t sweep away the ones that drink from my jar
and the ones from the old drag,
sucker, mistake with me,
with cosmic force the Boy.
With those eyes, man, with those eyes
Man, with those eyes, man, with those eyes
Man, with those eyes, man, with those eyes, with those eyes
Man, with those eyes, man, with those eyes.

Your magnificent superhero, baby,
not a bird, nor a plane, don’t get wrong,
I propel my style, shake it,
I bring tasty candy.
After the show, always good scores,
the things the fresh boys can do,
rotting energetic, baby,
I’m making those eyes again,
those eyes and hitting it.
One, two,
look, kid, the pigs let down by your kids
looking for fire logs,
kidnapped by me, raped, my burning rocket.
Tell me what are you looking for and you’ll see what you found,
my stream never runs aground, I don’t accept notches,
asshole, take vitamins if you wanna fuck with me.

With those eyes, man, with those eyes
Man, with those eyes, man, with those eyes
Man, with those eyes, man, with those eyes, with those eyes
Man, with those eyes, man, with those eyes, with those eyes
Man, with those eyes, man, with those eyes.

With those eyes that poison everything,
tell me how many cocks jumped the fence,
you don’t sleep anymore, hey.
Listen to the shit I bring, ooh,
is a turn, inspire and exhale, shot, breathe,
you’re gonna be dead more time than alive,
Oh, yes, it’s him,
I’m making those eyes again.
With those eyes I’m coming slowly,
well, pigs, your adventure’s coming to an end
cause I’m here to see you
with that look in my face
and something tells me that the battle’s going to be fierce.
Well, well, I was expecting it like that,
the mates by my side are willing to finish it,
and I’m playful
and in your face, bugger,
I get to the next level.
After, you see,
only with slight scratches on my skin, baby,
My life’s full of action
but don’t worry ‘bout my bones cause I’m making those eyes again.

With those eyes, man, with those eyes
Man, with those eyes, man, with those eyes
Man, with those eyes, man, with those eyes, with those eyes
Man, with those eyes, man, with those eyes, with those eyes
Man, with those eyes, man, with those eyes.
pop elton



Aug 20th, 2007 - 4:49 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Albums
1.Radiohead OK Computer
2.Björk Homogenic
3.Mogwai Young Team
4.Foo Fighters The Colour And the Shape
5.Kent Isola
6.Supergrass In It for the Money
7.Ben Fold's Five Whatever And Ever, Amen
8.Depeche Mode Ultra
9.Primal Scream Vanishing Point
10.Elliott Smith Either/Or
11.Godspeed You Black Emperor! f#a# (infinity)
12.Faith No More Album of the Year
13.Texas White on Blonde
14.Super Furry Animals Radiator
15.Portishead
16.The Verve Urban Hymns
17.Spiritualized Ladies And Gentleman We Are Floating in Space


Songs
1.Radiohead Let Down
2.Radiohead No Surprises
3.Foo Fighters My Hero
4.The Verve Bittersweet Symphony
5.Spiritualized Ladies And Gentleman We Are Floating in Space
6.Portishead All Mine
7.Foo Fighters Everlong
8.Beta Band Dry the Rain
9.Belle and Sebastian Lazy Line Painter Jane
10.Blur Song 2
11.Natalie Imbruglia Torn
12.Pulp Help the Aged
13.Björk Hunter
14.Björk Joga
15.Björk Bachelorette
16.Radiohead Paranoid Android
17.Radiohead Subterranean Homesick Alien
18.Olive You're Not Alone
19.Primal Scream Star
20.Oasis D' You Know What I Mean
DrDre



Aug 20th, 2007 - 5:38 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Albums:
1) Radiohead - OK Computer
2) The Verve - Urban Hymns
3) Buena Vista Social Club - Buena Vista Social Club
4) Daft Punk - Homework
5) The Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole
6) Steve Earle - El Corazón
7) U2 - Pop
8) Anouk - Together Alone
9) Supergrass - In It For The Money
10) Teenage Fanclub - Songs From Northern Britain

Songs:
1) The Verve - Sonnet
2) U2 - Staring At The Sun
3) Radiohead - Karma Police
4) The Verve - The Drugs Don't Work
5) Daft Punk - Da Funk
6) Radiohead - Paranoid Android
7) Cornershop - Brimful Of Asha
8) The Chemical Brothers - Block Rockin' Beats
9) The Verve - Bitter Sweet Symphony
10) Daft Punk - Around The World
11) Buena Vista Social Club - Chan Chan
12) Oasis - All Around The World
13) Radiohead - No Surprises
14) Eagle-Eye Cherry - Save Tonight
15) Anouk - Nobody's Wife
16) U2 - Discothèque
17) Steve Earle - Poison Lovers
18) Blur - Song 2
19) Rammstein - Du Hast
20) Supergrass - Sun Hits The Sky
Rocky Raccoon



Aug 20th, 2007 - 9:01 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Albums

1. Radiohead - OK Computer
2. Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out
3. Pavement - Brighten the Corners
4. Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating As One
5. Bob Dylan - Time Out of Mind
6. Cornershop - When I Was Born for the 7th Time
7. Blur - Blur
8. Portishead - Portishead
9. Bjork - Homogenic
10. Chemical Brohters - Dig Your Own Hole
11. Missy Misdemeanor Elliot - Supa Dupa Fly
12. Foo Fighters - The Colour and the Shape
13. Elliott Smith - Either/Or
14. The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death
15. Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen, We Are Floating in Space
16. The Verve - Urban Hymns
17. Erykah Badu - Baduizm
18. Roni Size/Represent - New Forms
19. Steve Earle - El Corazon
20. Modest Mouse - The Lonesome Crowded West
Harold Wexler

hwex9000@yahoo.com


Aug 21st, 2007 - 5:05 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

ALBUMS
1. Radiohead, OK COMPUTER
2. Elliott Smith, EITHER/OR
3. Sleater-Kinney, DIG ME OUT
4. Bob Dylan, TIME OUT OF MIND
5. The Chemical Brothers, DIG YOUR OWN HOLE
6. Yo La Tengo, I CAN HEAR THE HEART BEATING AS ONE
7. The Verve, URBAN HYMNS
8. Spiritualized, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WE ARE FLOATING IN SPACE
9. Pavement, BRIGHTEN THE CORNERS
10. Bjork, HOMOGENIC

SONGS
1. Radiohead, “Paranoid Android”
2. Sleater-Kinney, “One More Hour”
3. The Chemical Brothers, “Block Rockin’ Beats”
4. Spiritualized, “I Think I’m in Love”
5. Foo Fighters, “Everlong”
6. Radiohead, “Airbag”
7. The Verve, “Lucky Man”
8. Elliott Smith, “Pictures of Me”
9. Bob Dylan, “Not Dark Yet”
10. Radiohead, “The Tourist”
Greg Rumpff

greg_l_rumpff@yahoo.com


Aug 23rd, 2007 - 10:54 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

ALBUMS
1) CAKE Fashion Nugget
2) JARS OF CLAY Much Afraid
3) LISA LOEB Firecracker
4) BETH NIELSEN CHAPMAN Sand and Water
5) THIRD EYE BLIND Third Eye Blind
6) SQUIRREL NUT ZIPPERS Hot
7) SUNDAYS Static and Silence
8) BOB DYLAN Time Out of Mind
9) FLEETWOOD MAC The Dance
10) BEN FOLDS FIVE Whatever and ever Amen

SONGS
1) “Kiss Me” SIXPENCE NONE THE RICHER
2) “Jumper” THIRD EYE BLIND
3) “Brick” BEN FOLDS FIVE
4) “The Distance” CAKE
5) “Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)” GREEN DAY
6) “Mo Money,Mo Problems” NOTORIOUS B.I.G.
7) “On and On” ERYKAH BADU
8) “Bittersweet Symphony” THE VERVE
9) “Torn” Natalie Imbruglia
10) “Karma Police” RADIOHEAD
11) “Battle of Who Could Care Less” BEN FOLDS FIVE
12) “Tubthumping” CHUMBAWAMBA
13) ”Italian Leather Sofa” CAKE
14) “Semi-Charmed Life” THIRD EYE BLIND
15) “Walkin’ on the Sun” SMASH MOUTH
16) “Save Tonight” EAGLE-EYE CHERRY
17) “Falling in Love” LISA LOEB
18) “Crazy Times” JARS OF CLAY
19) “Tyrone” ERYKAH BADU
20) “Gone til’ November” WYCLEF JEAN
otisredding



Aug 27th, 2007 - 1:47 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

1 Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space
2 Bob Dylan - Time Out of Mind
3 Buena Vista Social Club - Buena Vista Social Club
4 Erykah Badu - Baduizm
5 Daft Punk - Homework
6 La Buena Vida - Soidemersol
7 Telefilme - Pocket horror symphony
8 Chucho - 79
9 Roni Size/Reprazent - New Forms
10 Sizzla - Black Woman & Child
11 Trans Am - Surrender To The Night
12 David Holmes - Let's Get Killed
13 The Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole
14 Squarepusher - Hard Normal Daddy
15 Sr. Chinarro - El porqué de mis peinados
16 Teenage Fanclub - Songs from Northern Britain
17 Built to Spill - Perfect from Now On
18 The Prodigy - The Fat of the Land
19 The Verve - Urban Hymns
20 Radiohead - OK Computer

1 Buena Vista Social Club - Chan, Chan
2 Bob Dylan - Not Dark Yet
3 Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Into My Arms
4 Erykah Badu - On and On
5 Daft Punk - Around the World
6 The Chemical Brothers - Block Rockin' Beats
7 Spiritualized - Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space
8 Björk - Joga
9 Prefab Sprout - Prisoner Of The Past
10 La Buenva Vida - Buenas cosas mal dispuestas
11 The Prodigy - Smack My Bitch Up
12 Massive Attack - Risingson
13 Yo La Tengo - Autumn Sweater
14 Teenage Funclub - Your Love Is The Place Where I Come From
15 Roni Size/Reprazent - Brown Paper Bag
16 Blur - Song 2
17 Soul Coughing - Super Bon Bon
18 I-F - Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass
19 Primal Scream - Kowalski
20 The Verve - Bitter Sweet Symphony
Henrik



Aug 29th, 2007 - 10:50 PM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997

Albums
1. Radiohead - OK Computer
2. Erykah Badu - Baduizm
3. Buena Vista Social Club
4. Built to Spill - Perfect from Now On
5. Björk - Homogenic
6. The Prodigy - The Fat of the Land
7. Roni Size/Reprazent - New Forms
8. Blur
9. Portishead
10. Elliott Smith - Either/Or
11. Cornershop - When I Was Born for the 7th Time
12. Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space
13. Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out
14. Mogwai - Young Team
15. Nick Cave - The Boatman's Call
16. Teenage Fanclub - Songs from Northern Britain
17. Robert Wyatt - Shleep
18. Primal Scream - Vanishing Point
19. Depeche Mode - Ultra
20. Laika - Sound of the Satellites

Songs
1. The Verve - Bittersweet Symphony
2. Radiohead - Lucky
3. Blur - Song 2
4. Erykah Badu - On and On
5. The Beta Band - Dry the Rain
6. Depeche Mode - It's No Good
7. Bran Van 3000 - Drinkin' in LA
8. Radiohead - No Surprises
9. White Town - Your Woman
10. The Chemical Brothers - Block Rockin' Beats
11. Roni Size/Reprazent - Heroes
12. Massive Attack - Risingson
13. Radiohead - Exit Music (For a Film)
14. Björk - Joga
15. Erykah Badu - Appletree
16. Blur - Death of a Party
17. Buena Vista Social Club - Chan, chan
18. Built to Spill - I Would Hurt a Fly
19. Portishead - All Mine
20. Nick Cave - Are You the One That I've Been Waiting For?
damosuzuki



Aug 30th, 2007 - 11:31 AM 		Re: Forum poll: The Best Albums and Songs of 1997